A Quick Question -- Who Do You Prefer Here?

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xXMagolorXx

I propose a line of theory where yellow receives an early checkmate:

The moveset (I don't know how to share an analysis for chaturaji):

1. b3, c7, e6, f4
2. Bb2, Bb7, Nf6, Ng4
3. Kc1, Ka6, Nxg4, Bxg4
4. Ba3, Bc6+, Bxa3+, Bf3
5. Nxa3, Bxe8#, -- , Bxa8 
6. Nb1, c6

(If you need me to, I can happily explain any of these moves)

 

As you can see, blue will have an extra 3 points for checkmating yellow and a semi-open pathway for pawn promotion, but will lose a rook in exchange for the trapped bishop.

 

Edit: Red has 5 pts, Blue has 3 pts (but soon 8), and Green has 5 pts.

ajayjha25

blue as he wins the red b back and gets 8pts for 6pts

ChessMasterGS

Chaturaji is unpredictable just like “standard” 4 Player Chess, although I would give Blue at least guaranteed 2nd in this position

Aluicious

I have to say Red is better, but it all depends on green.

I assume green will wait until the last possible moment to trade his bishop (he might as well get 1 pt for it - nothing can stop him, and there is no threat from the right).  It is green's move, so he will have at least 3 moves before he is forced to trade that bishop.  He is likely to move his pons and attack red.  Blue needs this to happen, or else Red becomes stronger than blue.

If green does not do something to force Red into a defensive move (likely Kb2) sometime in the next 3 moves, then Red can disrupt everything by playing a3, a4, and then axb5 - this makes it messy for Blue to recapture the bishop and he may lose extra material if he tries.  For this reason, green may allow red to mess things up for blue in hopes of saving his bishop in the end.  Example:

6 ...  (green moves)  f3 - failing to begin an attack on Red and giving Red a free hand to disrupt Blue's plans

7.  a3 Nc8 - f1 (or another waiting move, but there is no need to wait any longer)

8.  a4 Ka7 - Bxc6

9.   axb5 (and now Blue no longer has a good way to capture the green Bishop - if he does he loses his own Bishop and he is down to just a Knight and 3 pons.  Meanwhile, Red gets +5 pts for capturing the Bishop, so Blue's is also behind in points)

Alternately, Blue may try:

8. a4 Nb6 - Bxc6

But this is even worse, as Red now captures on b5 with check.  Blue not only loses the chance to cut Green's bishop, but he loses his own bishop for nothing to Green.

So it seems Blue is forced to play:

8.  a4 c5 to prevent Red's a-pawn from getting to the b-file and defending the critical c6 square (where Green's bishop must be captured).  But this loss of time means Green isn't forced to capture on c6 until move 9, which means Red has time on moves 9 & 10 to play b4 and b5, which blows up Blue's plans after all.

Alternately, Blue could try to play the preventive c5 move right away, on move 7, before he moves his knight out of the way of his king, but then Red doesn't have to spend a move getting his a-pawn to the 4th rank, and 8. b4 followed by 9. b5 covers the c6 square.  If blue tries to stop this by placing his knight on b5 (instead of c8) on move 8, then 9. a4 forces the knight to scram, and Red now has time for a fourth pon move, 10. b4 and then 11. b5.

Green is still the wild card in all this - he has 2 or even 3 moves in some of these variations to mess with Red and slow down Red's pons, but there is little incentive for him to do so.  At this point Green's best bet is probably to play for 2nd, which means giving points to the leader whenever possible.  The leader is whoever captures Green's bishop, so not entirely clear, but Red does have 2 pts more than Blue in this position, so I would let Red have the bishop, if I were Green.

Green may also think: "my position is the worst of the three, so I need to do whatever I can to generate chaos and hope for a mistake."  The least chaotic line is if Green slows down Red and Blue has a nice, clean recapture of the Green bishop.  So Green should definitely avoid that line, imo.

 

Max_Wolfe

I think theory which extends more than a few moves in chaturaji is not too useful... There are many lines that can arise and players play unpredictably most of the time. I tend to say this a lot but chaturaji has a "psychological aspect" to a greater extent than standard chess. Some players may not want another to get an advantage ect...

I would say Red and Blue have good positions but would not like to play green here. (my opinion) 

 

oatey

Aside from the points but just a positional - Green has nobody chasing them down, and blue has an open route to promotion

ravitejakakarala

I prefer blue. No one blocks promotion of Blue.

GellartGrindelwald

i like red here

 

GellartGrindelwald

they need to trade fast but i like their pieces