Ahab Chess

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I’m pretty sure the idea is that any piece or pawn (except for the king and queen) can be the royal

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why the bishop

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It's a nice piece ig.

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A member just contacted me wanting to do “dual support” with me to try to get this on chess.com, because apparently he actually had a similar idea back in April. Pretty crazy. The rules are markedly different, but the basic concept is very alike.

https://www.chess.com/forum/view/chess-variants/i-request-to-include-my-secret-kings-variant

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Huh

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Another test game of Ahab Chess. It was a really good game. Pieces highlighted in red above are Ahab royals.

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Cool!

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Was it illegal to put the king in check?

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No, it wasn't. We played by giving each other notation over Discord. I shared my screen and we played on a setup board, and I just recorded where I moved the pieces. It just happened that the king never stayed in check, so I was able to post it here.

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Why not Qc1+ and move bishop? Or can you move other pieces even if your king is in check?

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Arjun1516 wrote:

Was it illegal to put the king in check?

it's capture the royal

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Brudo_the_Chess_King wrote:

Why not Qc1+ and move bishop? Or can you move other pieces even if your king is in check?

see the first post

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@Green_Sleeves If the h-pawn is the Ahab royal... and it promotes on the 8th rank... what does it promote to? And I assume that the new promoted piece is the new Ahab, right? Also in the game above, the King could capture the Ahab bishop and it is GG right?

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what was bd3 about

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ProfBlundermaster wrote:

@Green_Sleeves If the h-pawn is the Ahab royal... and it promotes on the 8th rank... what does it promote to? And I assume that the new promoted piece is the new Ahab, right? Also in the game above, the King could capture the Ahab bishop and it is GG right?

Normal promotion rules apply, so it would almost always promote to a queen. It would remain an Ahab, yes, and would obviously be significantly more difficult to capture. This is one of the benefits of choosing a pawn to be an Ahab. If your Ahab can survive all the way to the end of the board, it’s almost a guaranteed win.

And yes, the final move of the game was the king taking my Ahab bishop. I indicated it with an arrow in the analysis board above, because it didn’t let me actually move the king because it would be in check.

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ProfBlundermaster wrote:

@Green_Sleeves If the h-pawn is the Ahab royal... and it promotes on the 8th rank... what does it promote to? And I assume that the new promoted piece is the new Ahab, right? Also in the game above, the King could capture the Ahab bishop and it is GG right?

Probably to any piece since then you would never really want to promote the royal pawn (since people would it's the king) and the pawn becomes lesser valuable than the royal making most people choose higher-value pieces.

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interesting game

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What is the seven check rule? And that doesn't really apply since it is a capture the king variant, not a checkmate the king variant.

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jackityjackjack wrote:

I think rooks would also be hard to capture if they were the king

Rookmate would not work without the 7-check rule

Yeah, that's the purpose of having these chess games. I'm playing at least one game with each type of piece as my Ahab, to see the drawbacks and benefits of each. So far, I've only completed games with a pawn or a bishop as Ahab.