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I once asked someone about their five biggest contradictions with the Bible, and they immediately came up with five well-thought-out ones. I asked if those were his; they were things that bothered him about scripture, he said, "No, he asked AI." Now I asked for his, he gave me five, not his, so his answer was a lie; if he had any, he didn't share them. I told him that and reminded him I could ask AI to give me answers for why those were not contradictions, and AI would have given me reasons for that, too. It gives answers to the questions asked the way they are asked.

If we are going to try to learn anything real, we need to critically examine the questions from several points of view, not just the one we like or favor. My wife taught debate, and her students had to be able to debate both sides of every issue. This forced them to learn all of the strengths and weaknesses of the topic from both sides. If you hold one side in contempt, it will not be the topic, but your attitude that hinders you from an honest examination of the truth about any topic.

If you hold those who hold a different view from yours in contempt, you’ll learn nothing; you will live in an echo chamber. The only solace you'll enjoy is your delusion that you are in the majority because the only voices you listen to will be those who agree with you; others are less than.

Sadly, a large portion of the populace worldwide would prefer to silence the voices that disagree with them, labeling them names at the first hint of disagreement, as if that wasn’t unhealthy, and accusing them of hate instead of respecting an honest disagreement from another individual.

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If some objection to a book's being inerrant is raised does it matter very much how that objection arose? I just did much the same as the unfortunate person you dismissed out of hand and did an online search and among many other objections it raised this one...

"Genesis 1 and 2 present different accounts of creation, including the order of creation and the timing of light and vegetation"

If that's a reasonable question worthy of discussion does it matter how it was arrived at? And would you like to address the point posed?

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If some objection to a book's being inerrant is raised does it matter very much how that objection arose? I just did much the same as the unfortunate person you dismissed out of hand and did an online search and among many other objections it raised this one...

"Genesis 1 and 2 present different accounts of creation, including the order of creation and the timing of light and vegetation"

If that's a reasonable question worthy of discussion does it matter how it was arrived at? And would you like to address the point posed?

I'd be happy to discuss what you just brought up, but my point wasn't that what he said was worthy or not; it was that he lied to me when he said these were his top five, he went somewhere else and asked, and that same place could have given a response to his points as well. If you are not willing to look hard at your side of a discussion, as you are the one who disagrees with the points, you are not being honest in your assessment.

Genesis 1 and 2 are presented differently because one is in chronological order, and the other is not.

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Interesting, I need to do some reading....

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This brought to mind a Proverb i read some time ago.

Proverb 18 v 17

" The first to present his case seems right, until another comes forward and questions him."

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If some objection to a book's being inerrant is raised does it matter very much how that objection arose? I just did much the same as the unfortunate person you dismissed out of hand and did an online search and among many other objections it raised this one...

"Genesis 1 and 2 present different accounts of creation, including the order of creation and the timing of light and vegetation"

If that's a reasonable question worthy of discussion does it matter how it was arrived at? And would you like to address the point posed?

I'd be happy to discuss what you just brought up, but my point wasn't that what he said was worthy or not; it was that he lied to me when he said these were his top five, he went somewhere else and asked, and that same place could have given a response to his points as well. If you are not willing to look hard at your side of a discussion, as you are the one who disagrees with the points, you are not being honest in your assessment.

Genesis 1 and 2 are presented differently because one is in chronological order, and the other is not. In addition, Gen ch 2 gives added facts to the creation as well as explaining some of what occured in Gen ch 1.

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