An Open-Minded Christian

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EinsteinFan1879

I recently saw a bumper sticker that read, "Open-Minded Christian". This person had other bumper stickers that I agreed with, but this one puzzled me. Obviously it is possible that this person is the most "Open-Minded Christian I have ever crossed paths with on various topics, but the question I have is whether this, or any other religious person professing to be open minded, can truly have an open mind about their religion or view points that conflict with their teachings, in this case Christianity but others can be substituted in nicely.

To be fair, I assume this person was talking about issues such as the right for Gays to married in the United States after seeing their other bumper stickers and not referencing other questioning of their religion, but the question still holds. My first thought was basically, " You may not be in line with the majority of your fellow believers in believing that Gay's are on the fast track to eternal damnation, but when it gets down to the details there is a large amount of things you (person driving the car now stands in for all the religious) simply have no ability to be open-minded about.

Depending on the religion there are large number of things that have to get set off to the side when one opens up their mind or at least this is my assumption. Questions such as the existence of God or the belief in the bibles story of Jesus are required to be a Christian hence making them off limits if one wants to stay a Christian

  The point of this post is to start a discussion on whether the idea of an "Open Minded Christian" can hold up to closer scrutiny or whether the bumper sticker should have read, "Open Minded Christian On A Few Things".

Stegocephalian

I agree with you - a Christian can be open minded about many things, but at least the belief of an interventionist, creator God, and Jesus being his son/god himself, and a belief in the at least approximate accuracy of the New Testament, seem to be things on which a Christian cannot be truly open minded. Or perhaps that is putting it too strongly - maybe a Christian CAN be open minded even about those things, but such Christians tend not to remain Christian for long.

For example, I found myself wondering, as I was reading Kenneth Miller's "Finding Darwin's God", whether or not he would be open to multiverse theories, should somehow science provide good evidence that we do live in a multiverse, created by a principle of quantum physics, a principle that produces bubble-universes with pretty much random laws of nature.

Or would he reject that evidence, because it would make a creator deity redundant?

I take Kenneth Miller as an example because he is probably the most open minded Christian I know of - his world view is as close to fully naturalistic as a theists' can be, without rejecting the notion of a deity. He's got no problem with evolution - completely undirected evolution with no inteligent intervention at any point, evolution that does in no way guarantee the emergence of humans - nor does he have a problem with abiogenesis. He is not a deist though, because he does believe that god may interve occasionally, in human history; he believes that God making humans in his image is a metaphor meaning that God made a species with high intelligence, in this respect like himself, but that species didn't have to come from the hominid line, nor did it have to look like humans; nor did it even have to emerge on Earth - any planet capable of supporting life would have surved his purpose.

But is he open minded to the notion of a multiverse? Or the evidence I spoke of elsewhere on this forum of cognition being a complex thing in need of an explanation, and thus not a likely thing to pre-exist everything else? The former is still easy for a theist to reject as it is little more than conjecture at this point, but the latter is something we have mountains of evidence for. Could he honestly evaluate the evidence?

It seems to me that on these matters, every Christian's belief does restrict his options as to the thoughts he may seriously entertain.

Snapdragon

"Open-minded Christian" -- sphaw! I have never understood that. A Christian, no matter which of its many denominations, believes certain things -- mainly, I suppose, that Jesus was the Son of God and is the One and Only Way to God, and that if one doesn't believe in him, one is doomed to the eternal fires of hell. (So much for the loving God.)

I have, in many arguments about religious topics, had Christians say "Well, that's what I believe, but if you don't accept that, that's okay. We each have to find our own way." THAT is what I find so ununderstandable. That person believes that Jesus is the only way to God and is willing to have me burn in hell for all eternity? Wouldn't you think he/she would do everything in his/her power to save me -- and everyone else -- from that? Much as I hate proselytizing, I have to admit I have greater respect for the proselytizer than for someone who blithely says "That's what I believe but......"

Open-minded Christian? That can only be a mind full of holes, a mind who doesn't really know what to believe and is not really convinced of anything.

Snapdragon

As an addendum, I would like to tell you that I recently bought a bumper sticker that says "BORN OK THE FIRST TIME". I am dying to put it on my car, but out of respect for my 92-year-old mother, who is a fundamentalist Christian, I haven't. She would really be upset by that, and I really am not out to create unnecessary friction between people. But isn't that a great bumper sticker?

azrad

I have a Christian friend who is fairly open minded. I've gotten him to admit he does not accept any part of the bible other than the first 4 books of the new testament (the Gospels). Furthermore I've gotten him to admit that the Gospels are not the word of god but are at best 2nd hand testimony about the life of a dubious character named Jesus. While he believes most of what the church teaches he does not pretend to have rational for any of it and will admit it if pressed. Most open minded Christian I've ever met.

Snapdragon

Your friend doesn't sound like a "Christian" to me. A Christian would simply be too blind to those facts and accept them on faith.

xavesilva

An open-minded Christian ? That is an oxymoron...

timrox

Can you be Christian without necessarily being religious? I contend that ANYONE can interpret the bible to suit their own bias. First, you extrapolate the moral, then, you marginalize the inane. Thomas Jefferson once stated, "Had the doctrines of Jesus been (truly followed)... the whole civilized world would now have been Christian. He then proceeded to rewrite the bible sans miracles.

We are talking about a belief system that instructs: Be just; justice comes from virtue, which comes from the heart. Treat people the way we want them to treat us. Always work for peaceful resolutions, even to the point of returning violence with compassion. Consider valuable the things that have no material value. Do not judge others. Do not bear grudges. Be modest and unpretentious. Give out of true generosity, not because we expect to be repaid. Hypocrites are lamentable.

Christ then becomes not a deity, but a universal moral influence. It’s a lot easier to defend that force than it is to defend the dogma of an idiot preacher with his biases.

 Question with boldness even the existence of a god; because if there be one he must approve of the homage of reason more than that of blindfolded fear.

-Thomas Jefferson, letter to Peter Carr, August 10, 1787