Announcing the 2021 (Third) Online World 4 Player Chess SOLO Championship! (DISCUSSION)

I agree with Neo, in a game like 4PC where theres a lot of variance (luck is a big factor in a small sample of games) giving more spots to people in the ranking (bigger sample of games) is better, since in the Arenas you need a lot of luck. 

And yeah, making the 3 best players and the defending champion play in the same side is not ideal.

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I agree with you neo 

i agreee too

Of course the arenas are not ideal, but I think of the options available the arenas at least provide a way for a lot a people at different levels to have a chance at qualifying.  I know that there is a ton of work behind the scenes that go into organizing these events, and it is impossible to come up with a solution that would satisfy everyone for all situations.  I also do not like the luck factor that is certainly a thing in these arenas, but there is always a random factor in ffa to some degree. 

I do wish that good solo players that are inactive all year and only play during the qualifiers could be excluded as they do not deserve a chance if they do not attempt to build up and encourage the game the rest of the time, but of course that would exclude all the new players curious about the great game of solo and trying it for almost the first time.  

Its impossible to come up with a solution that would satisfy everyone, but some satisfy more people than others.  In Arenas the randomness increases, so people get more frustrated, and since worse players can qualify, the level of the championship might decrease, which I believe does not help to generate attention and interest. I'm fine with doing something to give everyone a chance, but I think offering 8 spots to the Arenas is too much.  

Regarding those like me who don't play regularly during the year, leaving us out would mean  keep losing good players. What needs to be done is more self-criticism about how everything has been managed these years, causing many good players to stop playing and causing the game to evolve very little compared to what it could have, both in level of play and popularity. I dont get paid to build up the game.

Nope, a solution DOES exist.

a) a minimum of games required (I would say 100) and a decent minimal level (let's say, at least 1800) would've eliminated 90% of nonsense games, where naive and inexperienced players help the leader to win, attack outsiders, etc. 

b) taking 3 or 5 first players in every given arena (giving them points, with thus players having the cumulated perf taken into account) would reduce greatly the luck factor.

c) the Top 20 Solo players at some given date should be put together in a specific arena just for them, with let's say 10 winners taken for the final stage (i.e. 10 taken from the Top 20, let's say 3 by performance - and it's clear they are likely to be from the Top 20 as well, but outside of the 10 already selected -, and 3 "challengers" taken from the general arenas, 10 + 3 + 3 = 16, 4 tables like now.

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So anyone want to play 1/10|5D so that one game ends in 5 minutes?

I mean there's always a workaround... it's just pointless to try, just make the minimum rating 2000 or something, Solo isn't meant for 1600-rated players anyway.

1/5d is small for slower internet connection and in some countries it is too much short time to reach the move to server on time.another thing ,if you see the 4 winners,all of them are within first 20.

Except Jbolea, who is one of the best players of SOLO, ,I do not know the remaining three winners, maybe they are good maybe not...we will see. Anyway, welcome  to big scene and good luck!

The problem is that things could have been completely different thanks to pure luck! Among the top ten ( each Arenas ), even among the top five, I saw a lot of them who have no idea about SOLO and how to play it, and with very little luck, they were able to place in the top 16!

On the other hand, proven good players, who have been in the top 20 players for years, took 20th, 30th place in the arenas! In my opinion, that is not fair, and it shows the weaknesses of this way of choosing the top 16 solo players.

There is a solution. But let's each of us, present our proposal for future championships after the end of this one. (  just to try not to diminish the importance of the current Championship. )

I think there is another important point.

Once someone has qualified, he shouldn't be able to join another qualifier and play (even for fun). Because this player proved to be good. And then he plays (well, of course), and there are many perverse effects:

- the GAMES WITH HIM tend to be long. Therefore players LOSE TIME (mainly without result as this player is very good and wins...), whereas there are only 2 hours in a qualifier, and it's pretty short,

- very often the other good player will be 2nd, and instead of having a chance to win, this strong player will both a) miss points and b) waste his precious time,

- quite often the good players (already qualified) will be in the first positions of the new tournament, and yes it will be a 3rd, 4th or even 5th placed who will win, quite often with just 3-4 victories which is not relevant. Basically it's unfair as some random player will win whereas stronger ones won't have this chance because they will unluckily be mainly in the games with the leaders, waste their time, and instead of winning some games will see themselves 15-30th, with no points, and some much weaker players higher (and even winning the qualifier). Not really fair, I believe.

This is in the Rules:  "Players can play in as many Qualifier Arenas as they want until they Qualify. Qualifiers must agree to cease playing further Qualifier Arenas."

I qualified. What happens now?

Admins send you message confirming that you have time when the next round starts, and you play a best of 5 challenge against 3 other qualifiers. 

OK thanks!

oh no another national master coming to rekk everyone

Do I have any chance at scoring well in the world championship? I only started treating 4PC seriously a few weeks ago. I've played around 650 games so far.

well I've been playing for a bout a year and only have like 600 games myself, so you are obviously dedicated. You should do good

Considering that you beat a large number of very skilled players in order to win the qualifier, I think you should be good.