Announcing the 2022 (Fourth) Online World 4 Player Chess FFA/Solo Championship (DISCUSSION)

What happened with @typicalmove?

Jessezafirakos that the reason.i break the rule accidentally or intentionally it's doens't matter rules are rules I am with administrators. Thanks

Hi, typicalmove:

The administrators and myself regret to inform you that you are disqualified from the 2022 FFA W4PCC tournament. 

Specifically, you were found playing in Arena 8 after winning Arena 3, which is against the terms and conditions set forth in the rules (both seen in 2022 Solo (FFA) World 4 Player Chess Championships - Chess.com: "Players can play in as many Qualifier Arenas as they want until they Qualify. Qualifiers must agree to cease playing further Qualifier Arenas. Playing in arenas further WILL result in disqualification.

As for the Q8, I do not understand, I see rather ChaCha at the 2nd place and Rojitto at the 1st. What happened?

because typicalmove was DQed, rojitto was moved to winning Q3, so then cha won Q8 as a result.

Disqualify rojitto then because he played other qualifiers after winning q3

Rojitto was made aware and accepted being selected as an alternate, both of which occurred after the conclusion of Q8.
(Obviously, Jesse is trolling )

Well, I see. Probably Luke had no choice, so I'm not criticising. But it's clear that it had a HUGE impact because of the games involved. As described yesterday in a thread, I spent more than 1h in games with them, whereas other players could make much shorter games and thus gather more points. Anyway this arena system is totally inadequate.

https://www.chess.com/clubs/forum/view/a-proposal-for-2023-championship

I propose that you change the rule about playing in other qualifier arenas to something more nuanced and allow typicalmove to participate in the remaining qualifiers.

The problem with the current rules are A.they are too punitive. Disqualification is an overreaction to this problem. B. They do not provide nuance. typicalmove, who played one game and likely did not read/remember i.e wasn't aware, is treated the same as someone who would have played and won an entire extra arena

More simply, it is clear from how the arenas worked out that the current system is not optimal. The solution created much more of a problem than the offense.

I suggest change it to. "players are not allowed to play in the remaining qualifiers after they have won. If they do, they will lose rating points and may be disqualified"

typicalmove should be allowed to play in the remaining qualifiers, because, quite simply, there is no reason for him not to.

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The only arguement against my proposal is that "the rules are the rules" However, I disagree that we should indescriminatly enforce them. Obviously we shouldn't follow, for example, morally bankrupt rules. I think that if rules don't support the goals of 4pc, they should be altered and thrown out, no matter when they occur

E.g. If you play a consequent qualifier after qualifying, you decline your previous qualification automatically and have to qualify again.

If you finish second you have a legit chance of qualifying.

Is typicalmove really not allowed to play arenas and try to qualify again?

I mean, it's a DQ, admins should link a rulebook for W4SCC/W4PCC detailing the punishments though

The first weekend of qualifying was madness:

to conclude -

- we had one disqualification (typical)

- one self-disqualification

- as a result, the two runners-up were declared the winners

- taking away the first place from the man who finally won the Arena after 7 second places!

- breaking the rules because one competitor ( rojitto ) was allowed to continue to compete, after winning the third Arena! ( joke - obviously, but hilarious... good one Jesse )

- and don't forget the result of the first Arena - I won it only because my competitor (the famous Rojitto) decided to play another game - if he sat still and did nothing, he would be the first!

Like I said - total madness! 

P.S. Ah, I almost forgot the server problems!

Luke?

The problem was I still had pants

Next time you know what to do!

You forgot to mention that I was informed DURING my first game of Q8 that Radon will not take his win of Q7 and I am already qualified.

I understand why you feel this however you clearly show a lack of understanding if you think that those points should be removed and you declared the winner. The fact that you even had 65 points in the first place relies on whatever actions I made during that game so by the same logic you use to claim my points should be removed then yours should also be invalid. 

Also your statement regarding "compromised management" is completely unfair to the tournament director, they have done nothing in any shape or form to compromise the integrity of this tournament.

So ... what is the weather like in London these days?