Balance

I think 4 player chess would be more balanced if blue and greens queens and kings were switched.

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wow, it's true

It's because the set up has to be the same based on the players perspective for all players to make it balanced.

yes OK good idea and it maks sense

The reason why this setup is not used is to avoid the queens and kings to start on the same diagonal.

But all players are equal at start. There has to be a better reason. Also the current setup the queens and kings are on the same diagonal.

What do you mean equal? All players start with the same points and material regardless of which symmetry is used. In regular chess white starts with his king on the right side, while black starts with his king on the left side.

Yes it is equal, the current setup is always restricted for bg. My setup you can do a lot of things that work. I bet you i can win on ry or bg.

In the current setup all queens start on dark squares, while all kings start on light squares. No king are on the same diagonal as any queen.

But why is that setup better lol.

Do you only think of things as better or worse? It's different. No matter which symmetry you use, it is roughly equal. The advantage comes from first move advantage, not whether the queen is on the right or left side.

I'm saying that the reason the current setup is used is to avoid the kings and queens to start on the same diagonals. It's awkward if you can't move the queens pawn without getting exposed to checks. And as you might know, checks can be deadly in 4 player chess.

But "to avoid the kings and queens to start on the same diagonals." is not a good reason. And yes it is for better if bg has more choices. The same amount of power as ry. I am sorry i am not with until i get a good enough reason.

You haven't really shown any reason to believe why bg would have more choices with your setup. I have already said the reason why the current setup is used. I could go on and elaborate why you may want to avoid the kings and queens to start on the same diagonals, but the argument remains the same. There are no other reason really. The relative position between kings and queens are the only difference in your position after all.

I want you to elaborate lol.

it would make fpc harder

Exactly with the current setup most moves are forced and expected, my setup you can expect anything. The complexity is what make 4pc so fun.

when i play teams we just about always wn every other gam

Yup.

its already balanced as it is. the player to your right is just as dangerous to you and sometimes more dangerous than the player to your right. if blue and green kings started on right, it will only make it more unbalanced because queen and king start on same diagonal and red has first move advantage to exploit it. 

My suggestion is not unbalanced. The starting position is the same for all players based on their perspective. No matter which symmetry is used it is equal. Only thing is keep it the same piece placement for all players. If you make it different by a little it is considered unbalanced. If you look at regular chess the piece placement is the same based on the players perspective. You can't just make some excuse like king and queens starting on the same diagonal. Also i win plenty with my layout as blue and green.