Bedrock is better then Java

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Wolfgamer10122005

As I stated before we can't accurately test, can we?  You can't have a PC player go against a mobile player. We can never tell.  Also you can't say one is better than the other because the entire fighting mechanics are different along with how the player takes damage and what weapons do more damage. 

Simply put there are great players on both sides, and you can keep talking smack about the other side, but plainly we can't ever test it because of the different systems and combat systems.

chadnilsen
Wolfgamer10122005 wrote:

As I stated before we can't accurately test, can we?  You can't have a PC player go against a mobile player. We can never tell.

Yes, yes, we definitely can.

chadnilsen
chadnilsen wrote:
  • In Bedrock, when I move the mouse, there's a delay between the mouse moving and the FOV moving. And yes, I fixed the vsync thing, and it got a little better, but there's still a delay.
  • Hotkeys don't work in the inventory menu. In Java, you can hover over an item and press a hotkey to move it to that hotbar slot.
  • Bridging. On BE, bridging is not only easier, but it also doesn't make any logical sense. IMO, these are both bad.
  • Blocks take about a 20th of a second to register, even without lag, on a singleplayer world.

You still haven't addressed these complaints.

imbadatchesstrustmeplsong
Thankfulbear wrote:
chadnilsen wrote:
chadnilsen wrote:

Turns out I was wrong about a lot of the things you can or can't do on Bedrock Edition, and in that way, it's better than I thought. However, I have since played some BE, and it turns out it's worse than I expected. The problem for me is that it seems to be geared for noobs or kids. What do I mean?

  • When I move the mouse, there's a delay between the mouse moving and the FOV moving. And yes, I fixed the vsync thing, and it got a little better, but there's still a delay.
  • Hotkeys don't work in the inventory menu. In Java, you can hover over an item and press a hotkey to move it to that hotbar slot.
  • Bridging. On BE, bridging is not only easier, but it also doesn't make any logical sense. IMO, these are both bad.
  • Blocks take about a 20th of a second to register, even without lag, on a singleplayer world.

I think I said somewhere else that Java is for competitive players, and Bedrock is for casuals, (for the most part).

 

That is a lie there are many good bedrock players as well just like pe I can pvp an pc player ez with a mobile device.

You said, "I can pvp an pc player ez with a mobile device.". Well, that's because it's a pc player who does not play mobile playing mobile vs a player who mostly plays bedrock.

imbadatchesstrustmeplsong

I really don't want to get into an argument.

Wolfgamer10122005
chadnilsen wrote:
Wolfgamer10122005 wrote:

As I stated before we can't accurately test, can we?  You can't have a PC player go against a mobile player. We can never tell.

Yes, yes, we definitely can.

Please explain how we can then?  How can we get someone who is used to playing on a screen or console against someone who is playing on a computer, on a totally different combat system, with different weapon damages, enchantments, damage types, stamina, shield mechanics, sprinting, blocking, and combat in general.  

(Also the people would have to be at the perfect and exact same skill level which again is impossible since you are measuring it differently for each system.  Even then the experiment between which version is better can have some flaws with rouge variables.)

Seriously though, is there a way that you can mix them that I'm missing, because from all that I've heard those separate systems will stay just that, separate. 

imbadatchesstrustmeplsong
Wolfgamer10122005 wrote:
chadnilsen wrote:
Wolfgamer10122005 wrote:

As I stated before we can't accurately test, can we?  You can't have a PC player go against a mobile player. We can never tell.

Yes, yes, we definitely can.

Please explain how we can then?  How can we get someone who is used to playing on a screen or console against someone who is playing on a computer, on a totally different combat system, with different weapon damages, enchantments, damage types, stamina, shield mechanics, sprinting, blocking, and combat in general.  

(Also the people would have to be at the perfect and exact same skill level which again is impossible since you are measuring it differently for each system.  Even then the experiment between which version is better can have some flaws with rouge variables.)

Seriously though, is there a way that you can mix them that I'm missing, because from all that I've heard those separate systems will stay just that, separate. 

I agree.

chadnilsen
Wolfgamer10122005 wrote:
chadnilsen wrote:
Wolfgamer10122005 wrote:

As I stated before we can't accurately test, can we?  You can't have a PC player go against a mobile player. We can never tell.

Yes, yes, we definitely can.

Please explain how we can then?  How can we get someone who is used to playing on a screen or console against someone who is playing on a computer, on a totally different combat system, with different weapon damages, enchantments, damage types, stamina, shield mechanics, sprinting, blocking, and combat in general.  

(Also the people would have to be at the perfect and exact same skill level which again is impossible since you are measuring it differently for each system.  Even then the experiment between which version is better can have some flaws with rouge variables.)

Seriously though, is there a way that you can mix them that I'm missing, because from all that I've heard those separate systems will stay just that, separate. 

You don't need to have a 1v1 between a Java player and a Bedrock player in order to see who's better. Skill level can be roughly perceived by looking at a player's overall movement fluidity and aim.

But you're taking this completely off topic. My argument was not that "Java players are better than Bedrock players," (which they are, generally speaking), but "Java is designed in a way that is more suitable for competitive gameplay." There's a difference.

Thankfulbear

Man there is no evidence for that.

chadnilsen
Thankfulbear wrote:

Man there is no evidence for that.

For what?

ashucodez

Oh god, I am scrolling through the chats and I literally see paragraphs and essays being sent. It's just Minecraft, appreciate it.

Wolfgamer10122005
ashucodez wrote:

Oh god, I am scrolling through the chats and I literally see paragraphs and essays being sent. It's just Minecraft, appreciate it.

Sorry about all that.  I'll stop.  I was missing some of the conversation and typing more than I should have.  

You are right, Minecraft is an amazing game, no matter which version you play.

chadnilsen

There's nothing wrong with a good debate.

laurent3792chees

OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH THOSE PEOPLE ARE NOOBS