amrugg wrote:
And another thing: what's bad about creationist websites? Do you think they would lie?
Some lie. Some merely make mistakes. Some even seriously try to get things right but still make mistakes.
Could some evolutionist post how the Solar System(how they think) it was made?
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Dec 18, 2020
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By the way, why are "evolutionists" being asked to provide evidence for how the Solar system formed? Evolution isn't about either stellar formation or the formation of planetary systems. It also isn't about how life formed. It's about how life developed *once it already existed*--and, of course, once the Sun and Solar system *already existed*. If God created the Sun and the Solar system as a whole and also created the first unicellular life on Earth, it would still be possible that *after that*, evolution occurred, and roughly in accordance with evolutionary theory.
Dec 18, 2020
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And now, having skipped most of the thread, I see that tbwp10 made the same point I just made. Sorry for the duplication.
Dec 20, 2020
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Care to define what is 'the universe' before we start discussing how it began. As near as I can tell, some have pieces of the known universe creating the rest of the known universe, which is not really discussing how it began since part of it was here already.
The OP is about the origin of the solar system, not the origin of the universe
Jan 3, 2021
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TruthMuse wrote:
Care to define what is 'the universe' before we start discussing how it began. As near as I can tell, some have pieces of the known universe creating the rest of the known universe, which is not really discussing how it began since part of it was here already.
I'm sorry--some people contend that pieces of the known universe created the rest of it? Some hypotheses have pieces of the known universe creating the rest of it? In the first case, who? In the second case, which ones?
Just saw this thread, thanks to v1's new post. Looks like it's already been talked to death, so I just have one thing to add, an observation to make concerning a problem in the question itself: "Could some evolutionist" post about the solar system?
Creationists don't seem to understand that there are no "evolutionists." Creationists are the ones who have created this us-vs-them "creation-vs-evolution" false dichotomy. They indiscriminately take evolution, which is a field of study in biology, and apply the label to any "change" in science that doesn't agree with their young earth beliefs. Thus, to them, *evil* evolution = evolution of life, evolution of the earth, evolution of the solar system, evolution of stars, evolution of galaxies, evolution of the universe.
Creationists don't seem to be aware that the actual scientific world doesn't think in these categories. This question about the solar system is NOT a question for an "evolutionist" or evolutionary biologist. It's a question for an astronomer.
YECs, please understand this: the world is not divided into *God-fearing* creationists vs. *evil, atheistic, evolutionists.* If there is any dichotomy here, it is science-deniers vs. science. And there are countless professional scientists who are also religious believers in God, including evolutionary biologists and astronomers (who accept the extensive scientific evidence for the origin and formation of our solar system), and all manner of other scientists.
YEC organizations like ICR & AIG have truly done a disservice to both science and religion by needlessly pitting them against each other.