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PetecantbeatmeSLFL

http://historysevidenceofdinosaursandmen.weebly.com/visual.html

In the link you will see several examples of pictures dinosaurs drawn by ancient man.  How could ancient man know anything about dinosaurs if dinosaurs supposed to millions of years old?

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stephen_33

Am I correct - that's from a Young Earth Creationist website yes?

hellodebake

The one dinosaur, drawn by the 'Anasazi' seems to depict the one mentioned in Job, 'it's tail sways like a cedar.' ( Job c 40 v 15 - 19 )

varelse1

Okay.

Some of those pics are impressive.

Most are nothing like dinosaurs at all, though.

varelse1
hellodebake wrote:

The one dinosaur, drawn by the 'Anasazi' seems to depict the one mentioned in Job, 'it's tail sways like a cedar.' ( Job c 40 v 15 - 19 )

Am trying to remember.

Job was a bit after Noah's time. Right?

hellodebake

Prior to Noah and the Flood, as i understand.

Many theologians consider Job to be the oldest book in the bible.

stephen_33

The last dinosaur walked the Earth some 65 million years ago but our earliest ancestors didn't evolve until about 3(?) million years ago, so it's simply not possible for us to have co-existed.

Elroch

Breaking news: dinosaurs became extinct by accidentally walking off the edge of the flat Earth.

The ancient artwork is great. Big problem though that all dinosaur fossils stop at 65 million years ago. (Unless you count birds).

JasRexus
stephen_33 wrote:

Am I correct - that's from a Young Earth Creationist website yes?

That is the only place that provides research for creation science... Therefore we have to use resources that back our position... Because other websites have secular science and they wouldn't show anything else... Because it is "unscientific"

JasRexus
hellodebake wrote:

Prior to Noah and the Flood, as i understand.

Many theologians consider Job to be the oldest book in the bible.

Ehh, I don't know...

JasRexus

And is this not at least SOME evidence?

JasRexus

Esp. the Cambodian temple?

 

Or will it go in the chronicles of evidence evolutionists ignore vol. 5?

stephen_33
JayHunterBrickwood wrote:
stephen_33 wrote:

Am I correct - that's from a Young Earth Creationist website yes?

That is the only place that provides research for creation science... Therefore we have to use resources that back our position... Because other websites have secular science and they wouldn't show anything else... Because it is "unscientific"

Since there's no mention of dinosaurs in scripture, I imagine you have little interest in this issue?

JasRexus

This is one place where dinosaurs are mentioned... 

Job
Chapter 41

 
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1Canst thou draw out leviathan with an hook? or his tongue with a cord which thou lettest down?

2Canst thou put an hook into his nose? or bore his jaw through with a thorn?

3Will he make many supplications unto thee? will he speak soft words unto thee?

4Will he make a covenant with thee? wilt thou take him for a servant for ever?

5Wilt thou play with him as with a bird? or wilt thou bind him for thy maidens?

6Shall the companions make a banquet of him? shall they part him among the merchants?

7Canst thou fill his skin with barbed irons? or his head with fish spears?

8Lay thine hand upon him, remember the battle, do no more.

9Behold, the hope of him is in vain: shall not one be cast down even at the sight of him?

10None is so fierce that dare stir him up: who then is able to stand before me?

11Who hath prevented me, that I should repay him? whatsoever is under the whole heaven is mine.

12I will not conceal his parts, nor his power, nor his comely proportion.

13Who can discover the face of his garment? or who can come to him with his double bridle?

14Who can open the doors of his face? his teeth are terrible round about.

15His scales are his pride, shut up together as with a close seal.

16One is so near to another, that no air can come between them.

17They are joined one to another, they stick together, that they cannot be sundered.

18By his neesings a light doth shine, and his eyes are like the eyelids of the morning.

19Out of his mouth go burning lamps, and sparks of fire leap out.

20Out of his nostrils goeth smoke, as out of a seething pot or caldron.

21His breath kindleth coals, and a flame goeth out of his mouth.

22In his neck remaineth strength, and sorrow is turned into joy before him.

23The flakes of his flesh are joined together: they are firm in themselves; they cannot be moved.

24His heart is as firm as a stone; yea, as hard as a piece of the nether millstone.

25When he raiseth up himself, the mighty are afraid: by reason of breakings they purify themselves.

26The sword of him that layeth at him cannot hold: the spear, the dart, nor the habergeon.

27He esteemeth iron as straw, and brass as rotten wood.

28The arrow cannot make him flee: slingstones are turned with him into stubble.

29Darts are counted as stubble: he laugheth at the shaking of a spear.

30Sharp stones are under him: he spreadeth sharp pointed things upon the mire.

31He maketh the deep to boil like a pot: he maketh the sea like a pot of ointment.

32He maketh a path to shine after him; one would think the deep to be hoary.

33Upon earth there is not his like, who is made without fear.

34He beholdeth all high things: he is a king over all the children of pride.

JasRexus

Job
Chapter 40

 
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1Moreover the LORD answered Job, and said,

2Shall he that contendeth with the Almighty instruct him? he that reproveth God, let him answer it.

3Then Job answered the LORD, and said,

4Behold, I am vile; what shall I answer thee? I will lay mine hand upon my mouth.

5Once have I spoken; but I will not answer: yea, twice; but I will proceed no further.

6Then answered the LORD unto Job out of the whirlwind, and said,

7Gird up thy loins now like a man: I will demand of thee, and declare thou unto me.

8Wilt thou also disannul my judgment? wilt thou condemn me, that thou mayest be righteous?

9Hast thou an arm like God? or canst thou thunder with a voice like him?

10Deck thyself now with majesty and excellency; and array thyself with glory and beauty.

11Cast abroad the rage of thy wrath: and behold every one that is proud, and abase him.

12Look on every one that is proud, and bring him low; and tread down the wicked in their place.

13Hide them in the dust together; and bind their faces in secret.

14Then will I also confess unto thee that thine own right hand can save thee.

15Behold now behemoth, which I made with thee; he eateth grass as an ox.

16Lo now, his strength is in his loins, and his force is in the navel of his belly.

17He moveth his tail like a cedar: the sinews of his stones are wrapped together.

18His bones are as strong pieces of brass; his bones are like bars of iron.

19He is the chief of the ways of God: he that made him can make his sword to approach unto him.

20Surely the mountains bring him forth food, where all the beasts of the field play.

21He lieth under the shady trees, in the covert of the reed, and fens.

22The shady trees cover him with their shadow; the willows of the brook compass him about.

23Behold, he drinketh up a river, and hasteth not: he trusteth that he can draw up Jordan into his mouth.

24He taketh it with his eyes: his nose pierceth through snares.

JasRexus
stephen_33 wrote:
JayHunterBrickwood wrote:
stephen_33 wrote:

Am I correct - that's from a Young Earth Creationist website yes?

That is the only place that provides research for creation science... Therefore we have to use resources that back our position... Because other websites have secular science and they wouldn't show anything else... Because it is "unscientific"

Since there's no mention of dinosaurs in scripture, I imagine you have little interest in this issue?

Maybe read the other position's views on the subject...

stephen_33

Please, no more interminable quotations of scripture! If you have a worthwhile point to make, do it concisely.

Now why should anyone think for even a passing moment that 'Leviathan' has anything remotely to do with dinosaurs?

Leviathan

Leviathan (/lɪˈv.əθən/HebrewלִוְיָתָןLivyatan) is a creature with the form of a sea monster from Jewish belief, referenced in the Hebrew Bible in the Book of JobPsalms, the Book of Isaiah, and the Book of Amos.

The Leviathan of the Book of Job is a reflection of the older Canaanite Lotan, a primeval monster defeated by the god Baal Hadad. Parallels to the role of Mesopotamian Tiamat defeated by Marduk have long been drawn in comparative mythology, as have been wider comparisons to dragon and world serpent narratives such as Indra slaying Vrtra or Thor slaying Jörmungandr,[1] but Leviathan already figures in the Hebrew Bible as a metaphor for a powerful enemy, notably Babylon (Isaiah 27:1), and some 19th century scholars have pragmatically interpreted it as referring to large aquatic creatures, such as the crocodile.[2] The word later came to be used as a term for "great whale" as well as of sea monsters in general.

JasRexus

What about plesiosaurs?

 

It is technically possible that there was a type of plesiosaur that breathed fire. We only see the fossils after all, and all of the soft tissue has dissolved.

 

And I had to post the whole chapters, because it has all the information in the whole chapters.

JasRexus

What about "Behemoth"?

stephen_33

What about trusting in the professionalism of intelligent, trained scientists who are motivated by one thing above all others - establishing the most reliable facts concerning the geological periods in which various fossils were created?