Dinosaurs may not be as ancient as we think

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Ziryab
hellodebake wrote:

https://www.yahoo.com/gma/flying-dinosaur-skeleton-discovered-isle-192209723.html

Perhaps a distant relative of Job's dinosaur....... Job ch 40 : 15 - 19

All birds are distant relatives of this dinosaur. Have a look at what Jesus said about sparrows.

DrSpudnik

He said I'm worth a whole bunch of the things, that didn't have much of a going rate way back when (either that or a penny went much further in those days!).

hellodebake

https://www.yahoo.com/news/dinosaur-age-nightmarish-sea-lizard-183216102.html

Look ! Leviathan.

TruthMuse
stephen_33 wrote:

What about trusting in the professionalism of intelligent, trained scientists who are motivated by one thing above all others - establishing the most reliable facts concerning the geological periods in which various fossils were created?

It’s not the professionalism it is the ability to validate and interpret what is seen.

hellodebake

https://www.yahoo.com/news/prehistoric-marine-reptile-may-rivaled-225748756.html

Perhaps this was Leviathan....

hellodebake

https://www.yahoo.com/news/extremely-rare-dinosaur-discovered-3-040100872.html

https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/fossil-hunting-diver-makes-stunning-221529668.html

hellodebake

https://www.yahoo.com/news/horned-dinosaur-species-discovered-largest-120700483.html

TruthMuse

The thing about every dinosaur discovery each time we find a new one it adds to the question of how all of these creatures got here question. The greater the diversity of life in any of our time-dated periods, where new forms and features are distinct from other creatures, there are more gargantuan changes in genetic code that had to have taken place over time if that was how life emerged.

DrSpudnik
TruthMuse wrote:

The thing about every dinosaur discovery each time we find a new one it adds to the question of how all of these creatures got here question. The greater the diversity of life in any of our time-dated periods, where new forms and features are distinct from other creatures, there are more gargantuan changes in genetic code that had to have taken place over time if that was how life emerged.

We're talking about a time line of how many millions of years? How many gaps in our species knowledge are there? It's probably not all that perplexing.

TruthMuse

For me it isn't perplexing it doesn't fit the narrative that small changes over time by an unguided process well. The molecular clock hypothesis has evolutionary changes taking place at a constant rate, I don't believe an explosion of new life fits those models well that have life start at one point in time and transitioning into the variety we see today.

hellodebake

https://www.yahoo.com/news/60-million-old-seeds-reveal-215720135.html

Only because dinosaurs are mentioned....

TruthMuse
hellodebake wrote:

Because dinosaurs are mentioned where?

hellodebake
TruthMuse wrote:
hellodebake wrote:

Because dinosaurs are mentioned where?

In the headline and the first paragraph or two.

Ziryab
TruthMuse wrote:

For me it isn't perplexing it doesn't fit the narrative that small changes over time by an unguided process well. The molecular clock hypothesis has evolutionary changes taking place at a constant rate, I don't believe an explosion of new life fits those models well that have life start at one point in time and transitioning into the variety we see today.

You are not up to speed on the theory.

It is theory, not a hypothesis.

Look up Stephen Jay Gould and punctuated equilibrium.

TruthMuse
Ziryab wrote:
TruthMuse wrote:

For me it isn't perplexing it doesn't fit the narrative that small changes over time by an unguided process well. The molecular clock hypothesis has evolutionary changes taking place at a constant rate, I don't believe an explosion of new life fits those models well that have life start at one point in time and transitioning into the variety we see today.

You are not up to speed on the theory.

It is theory, not a hypothesis.

Look up Stephen Jay Gould and punctuated equilibrium.

The mechanisms that would cause an alteration of the processing speed of normative evolutionary change would be?

varelse1

Ziryab
TruthMuse wrote:
Ziryab wrote:
TruthMuse wrote:

For me it isn't perplexing it doesn't fit the narrative that small changes over time by an unguided process well. The molecular clock hypothesis has evolutionary changes taking place at a constant rate, I don't believe an explosion of new life fits those models well that have life start at one point in time and transitioning into the variety we see today.

You are not up to speed on the theory.

It is theory, not a hypothesis.

Look up Stephen Jay Gould and punctuated equilibrium.

The mechanisms that would cause an alteration of the processing speed of normative evolutionary change would be?

“Normative”, as you present it, is not normal, according to Gould’s work. I was exposed to it more than 30 years ago. You need to revise your understanding of what evolutionary theory puts forth.

When you criticize something no one believes, you make no headway.

TruthMuse

I'm saying that there is not enough time even with billions of years as a playing field, neither does it work out if there were unlimited amounts of time because of all of the necessary details.

Ziryab

When you are wrong, you are wrong.

TruthMuse
Ziryab wrote:

When you are wrong, you are wrong.

Ditto