Dinosaurs may not be as ancient as we think

Religious motives in defiance of credible science …

But these things all play a part in Science Denial, as well.

But at the end of the day, the Great Accomplishments are done by Science. Including curing polio, breaking down the human genome, and putting a man on the moon. (A few among thousands of examples.)

While Science deniers just sit around, and scream “Liar! Liar!” Whatever needs to be said, to get those few extra clicks. True or not.

Can a species die from swallowing too much clickbait?

I think we're about to find out.

I don’t have the ability to read minds or hearts, so discussing those types of things should take a back seat to logic, and direct evidence. Otherwise you may find yourself ignoring good science because of self imposed blinders.

Yes, that's exactly the point. Creationists impose self-blinders and ignore good science.

Well that can cut both ways, so it is best to focus on the science to make sure what we say is good on the merits of the science and not on the blame game focusing on what camp the people belong to.

I’m talking about the merits. I’m diagnosing the reason there are none.

When you produce some science and not just tell me what you believe, we can examine it.

That is a statement about people not science.

It is the beginning of an essay that explains the science of macroevolution in a manner that corrects errors spawned by those with nefarious objectives.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/where-did-dinosaurs-first-evolve-164423292.html

By Will Dunham

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Dinosaurs long dominated Earth's land ecosystems with a multitude of forms including plant-eating giants like Argentinosaurus, meat-eating brutes like Tyrannosaurus and weirdos like Therizinosaurus, with its Freddy Krueger-like claws. But the origin of dinosaurs - precisely when and where they first appeared - remains a bit of a puzzle.

Researchers are now proposing a surprising location for the birthplace of dinosaurs, based on the locations of the currently oldest-known dinosaur fossils, the evolutionary relationships among these early forms and Earth's geography during the Triassic Period.

This locale spans the modern-day Sahara desert and Amazon rainforest regions, now separated by thousands of miles and an ocean thanks to a geological process called plate tectonics.

"When dinosaurs first appear in the fossil record, all the Earth's continents were part of the giant supercontinent Pangaea. Dinosaurs emerged in the southern portion of this landmass, known as Gondwana," said Joel Heath, a paleontology doctoral student at University College London and the Natural History Museum in London and lead author of the study published on Thursday in the journal Current Biology.

"Our research suggests they likely originated in the low-latitude regions of Gondwana near the equator, an area that today includes northern South America and northern Africa," Heath added.

The earliest-known dinosaur fossils date to roughly 230 million years ago, including Eoraptor and Herrerasaurus from Argentina, Saturnalia from southern Brazil and Mbiresaurus from Zimbabwe. While sharing certain traits defining them as dinosaurs, they had sufficient differences that suggest millions of years of dinosaur evolution had already occurred.

"While earlier research has focused on southern South America and southern Africa as the area of origin of the dinosaurs, based on where their fossils first appear, we suggest that significant gaps in the fossil record - particularly in regions that today include the Sahara desert and the Amazon rainforest - may hold the potential to reveal where the earliest dinosaurs were living," Heath said.

The researchers said dinosaurs probably emerged approximately 245-230 million years ago, when these equatorial regions were extremely hot and dry.

"It likely included deserts, savannah-like habitats and possibly forested areas prone to seasonal wildfires. Previously, it was believed that dinosaurs were absent from these harsh environments," Heath said.

Fossils from this time and region are rare. This might be because the conditions were not ideal for preserving the remains of land animals or because the rocks containing these fossils have not been discovered yet, Heath said. Regions like the Amazon and Sahara also are difficult for paleontologists to explore due to dense forests, vast deserts and logistical challenges.

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Which sentence mentioned any people in that?

You don’t think saying Creationist is talking about people?

Oh sorry. I thought you were referring to post #229.

If that is the worst thing that happens, we are in great shape.

Same thing worrying about some’s objectives is still more concern about people than evidence.

I've been quite clear that denial of evidence in favor of a religious view is precisely the objective, whether they lie to themselves or lie to us or both.

They mainly lie to themselves and then get grumpy when everyone else doesn't go along with it.