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Has anyone bothered to watch the link yet? It is the point of the link I'm interested in. Please don't assume that I mean only the link should be discussed. I am just curious.

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tbwp10 wrote:

I haven't had a chance to watch the whole thing yet. 

Let me know when you do get around to listening to him, I find compelling.

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tbwp10 wrote:

I haven't had a chance to watch the whole thing yet. 

Have you had the time to watch it yet?

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tbwp10 wrote:

Well in fairness a physicist or philosopher of science would be better qualified, but I don't have a problem with non-experts doing a presentation like this if they've done their homework, know their facts, give an accurate presentation, etc. 

It has been a while, have you watched it yet?

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He hasn’t been online for 4 days. Don’t expect much! wink.png

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Oh yeah, I remember him saying (elsewhere) he was taking off for a while.

Forgot about that. 

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tbwp10 wrote:

I haven't had a chance to watch the whole thing yet. 

Ever watch this?

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I'd forgotten I was following this discussion...

What particular point was being debated?

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A police detective whose job was cold case murders explains looking at evidence and applying it to the universe using some of his methods in cold case murder investigations. When working, he would examine the place they find a body; from what they find, they would look for a reason to say this body's death was caused by what they see there; if they believe they see all they need to know, then no need to look elsewhere, or did something once there but is now outside of the crime scene do it.

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I'd have thought the set of skills required to solve murders was very different from that needed to pick apart the workings of the Cosmos?

Is this detective a trained physicist?

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stephen_33 wrote:

I'd have thought the set of skills required to solve murders was very different from that needed to pick apart the workings of the Cosmos?

Is this detective a trained physicist?

Trained in looking at a place with a body and determining cause through evidence.

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TruthMuse wrote:
stephen_33 wrote:

I'd have thought the set of skills required to solve murders was very different from that needed to pick apart the workings of the Cosmos?

Is this detective a trained physicist?

Trained in looking at a place with a body and determining cause through evidence.

So that would be a 'no' then?

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stephen_33 wrote:
TruthMuse wrote:
stephen_33 wrote:

I'd have thought the set of skills required to solve murders was very different from that needed to pick apart the workings of the Cosmos?

Is this detective a trained physicist?

Trained in looking at a place with a body and determining cause through evidence.

So that would be a 'no' then?

Are you looking for a reason to not view it?

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No, I'm wondering if there's any reason to view it. I'm asking you why a non-physicist should be able to reach a conclusion that's eluded those with a much deeper understanding of the physical Universe.

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Well, it's been there since May 2021 not sure what are you waiting for?

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I'm waiting for a good reason to believe that a detective has anything to say about the existence of the Universe that I haven't heard many times before.

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Well, if all you are going to do is with till that happens to hear something from a perspective you have more than likely not been exposed to before, I guess you have made up your mind already and are simply avoiding it because you want to.

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If you feel so strongly that your detective is making a sound case, it should be possible for you to summarise it in your own words - would you like to do that?

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stephen_33 wrote:

If you feel so strongly that your detective is making a sound case, it should be possible for you to summarise it in your own words - would you like to do that?

He looks at evidence in the same way he looks at Cold-Case murders where so much time has gone by and possibly all witnesses and investigators could be gone or dead and solves the crimes. Applying the same methods to understand the universe’s beginning, not something in the wheel house of someone who only studies the universe as it is.

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And do you find such an approach legitimate?