Feedback about the new 4PC version

That's only part of it. The problem is that the rating range selector doesn't actually work at the moment, so high rated players get matched up against players rated well below them, like in this game (600+ difference is just too much). If the selector would be working, you'd get more evenly matched games with more points to gain and fewer to lose.

You can still play against blocked players @jesssica00

@jesssica00,
As @tommerrall949 said, you can still play against blocked players in 4PC. This is because 4PC players pool is still small. In one of the following 4PC releases we will not allow blocked players to join your team in 4PC Teams. But they can still appear in an opposite team.

If you see cheaters, please report them. Tell us the game number and their nicknames and we will ban them if they really cheated. At the beginning of September we will add "Abuse report" to 4PC UI. It will be easier to report cheaters.

This is how it looks in-game:

You just click a cheater nickname, then exclamation icon, add some description, click Send and your report will go directly to 4PC team.

There ought to be some sort of chat available to make it easier to arrange games.

Not least for a chat box for players waiting to start  a game having already clicked on play.

Yes. we plan to add a chat for waiting players. In the meantime please use our club chat:

I got banned on 4 players chess and I know that I was reported and for Teaming I guess.

To all you chess players who do not do anything else but report when you lose. 

4 chess players is by far the most strategic game in internet right now and I love strategies.

So this is the case:

I started playing and there was someone(calling him X) that teamed against me in some games before so I started attacking him right away. It happens that another player(calling him Y, that I absolutely had no previous contact or even game contact) attacks him too. later on I take the X's Queen and Y sacrificed his 1point queen to help me and I was not expecting that, I didn't know by any mean he would do that.
So I said it is strategy and basically I have to return the help that I got.

The X was so mad he obviously reported me and I got a ban.
Now I don't get it, what the heck is teaming and not teaming; Developers have to make some clear rules and define what is proper teaming vs strategy teaming, coz damn, dealing with these nonsense winy players is hard.

@ilopinci96, if you need to know the reason, please contact chess.com support using Help menu. You may be banned for games that you played a week ago, or a few days ago. If someone told you that he reports you today, it does not mean that chess.com support looked at his/her today's report already.

> Developers have to make some clear rules and define what is proper teaming vs strategy teaming ...

We discuss it at https://www.chess.com/clubs/forum/view/stupid-accusations-of-teaming

Whilst playing 4 player with this new format, I accidentally flipped the board (I don't know how) and couldn't correct it.

I still can't see how the board can be flipped. 

Could you make this function clearer please?

I also foresee many a similar problem with all these extra functions added. I suggest that there be a LARGE easily clickable button to put everything back to normal easily.

@RealDarren, ok we fixed it. You cannot flip the board in-game now. But can when you analyse a game.

Claiming a win just means resigning against the remaining player. So, it makes sense he gets 20 points, because that's the least amount of points he could get for defeating you when play would have continued. If you think that's not fair, you should play on and not give him any points for free.

If playing on would have cost you the win, then maybe what's not fair is claiming a win?

The less you trade the more power you have... so it was legitimate... yellow deserved that.

https://www.chess.com/clubs/forum/view/the-unfair-claim-win-1

quoting myself from page 2 #36:

the point of my rule is: if you resign, you won't win.

so people won't resign until they give up hope of winning. it's how it should be. and noone ever actually gets the 20+material unless he's already secured 1st place.

it's not unfair cause it wont affect the standings.

Yeah, so then it's not even an issue, unless the leading player flags.

Could you add the option to join an analysis board with multiple people? Would be very useful when discussing lines.

i wish we had that but it's a complex matter if you wanna do it right. who owns the board? who's moves are relayed? i not gonna happen unfortunatly, uness you are or know of a dev with a lot of passion and some spare time..
if you can think of simple ways that have a similar effect (like a quick way send your pgn to another payer's board, things like that) that might be an option.

Maybe just allow spectating someone else's analysis board with chat and spectator arrows? Like when someone is observing a game, you can click 'Observing' below his name to join that same game. If someone is analysing, it would then say 'Analysing', which you can click to observe his analysis board? Then only one player controls the board and moves, but the spectator can draw arrows to suggest moves. I think that should not be too complex.

@GDII, screen share in Skype can be a workaround for now. I like your idea, but @_-__-__-___- is right: Too much time is needed to program this feature.

I was just trying to make my own application compatible with the FEN4 and PGN4 definitions used here and I noticed the following:

• The analysis board here does not support subvariations (when you play an alternative move within a variation, it replaces the previous move), so when I try to load a PGN4 with subvariations, it will raise an error.
• The StartFen4 only defines a different starting position, but cannot be used to define the current position within a game. That is, if the movetext just starts from move 1 as normal, but I want to set the current position to some later move in the game, that is currently not possible. All moves before the StartFen4 position have to be omitted for it to work. If I try to load a PGN4 with a FEN4 that corresponds to a later position in the game, it will raise an error.

Also, it's probably a good idea to have a clearly defined convention for the FEN4 and PGN4 (and not change it). For example, I was wondering what the number before the last '-' is in the FEN4. It seems to be always 0. Should that be the ply count?

[player to move]-[dead]-[kingside castling]-[queenside castling]-[points]-[??]-[position]

no subvariations, sorry. you should be able to have sevaral variations starting at the same move though.

"I want to set the current position to some later move in the game"

i dont quite follow what your are doing. StartFen4 is just an option to start from a different fen than the normal starting position.

the last -0- is the plycount yes. not sure why it's alwyas 0, i'll have a look

He probably wants to change the start position which is shown while still having the pgn for the whole game (so you can move backwards to the start). Like this: