FOA Titles - Suggestion

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Dear Chess.com,

I recently came across something called the FIDE Arena titles. These are official titles awarded by FIDE, which can be earned by subscribing to the FIDE Online Arena - yes, it is FIDE's official platform.

Interestingly, the titles achieved there are also displayed on our official FIDE profiles and are recognized as legitimate accomplishments within the platform.

I decided to give it a try and aim for the highest available title - Arena Grandmaster (AGM). I managed to achieve it.

Below, I’m including a screenshot from my FIDE profile showing the title.

It’s worth mentioning the ranking programs here and how these titles can be earned. Below, I present the name of the title and the ranking required to achieve it:

  • Arena Grandmaster (AGM) - To earn this title, we must maintain a 2000 Elo rating over 50 rapid games, or 100 blitz games, or 150 bullet games.
  • Arena International Master (AIM) - To earn this title, we must maintain a 1700 Elo rating over 50 rapid games, or 100 blitz games, or 150 bullet games.
  • Arena FIDE Master (AFM) - To earn this title, we must maintain a 1400 Elo rating over 50 rapid games, or 100 blitz games, or 150 bullet games.
  • Arena Candidate Master (ACM) - To earn this title, we must maintain a 1100 Elo rating over 50 rapid games, or 100 blitz games, or 150 bullet games.

What’s most funny, despite the simplicity, according to Wikipedia, only 4,650 people hold these titles.

Source - Wikipedia

My suggestion is this: would Chess.com be able to implement these titles on the site? I believe it would be great to include them on users’ profiles as an additional form of recognition.

Below, I present how it could look - I even created a graphic that could serve as a profile badge.

I think this could boost motivation and increase interest in playing on Chess.com.

I think the Arena title is not prestigious enough to be displayed next to a user’s nickname or to grant them a premium account, as is done with official FIDE titles.

However, while writing this post, I came up with the idea that special arenas could be organized for players holding Arena titles - similar to the Titled Tuesday tournaments, but without cash prizes.

This would be a great opportunity for competition and community building among players with these titles.

Below, I’m also sending a draft of my graphic:


Thank you for reading and considering my idea. Have a nice day!

Avatar of kalafiorczyk

Are you sure that FIDE won't demand money from C.C for the use of their proprietary titles?

Edit: Take a look at https://analysis.sesse.net/ . They even avoid mentioning normal FIDE titles to avoid getting sued by the FIDE and/or other chess federations.

Avatar of Seriton7
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Are you sure that FIDE won't demand money from C.C for the use of their proprietary titles?

I don’t know, but since they use the official ones, probably not. I’m curious what Chess.com thinks about it and how they view the situation. I haven’t mentioned this in the post yet, but the arena titles can be used in official live games, and they appear next to your name.

 
Avatar of kalafiorczyk

Sorry, I edited while you were positing your reply.

Please research the legal status of using various official titles in the media. For your own edification learn what had to be done to make sure that the chess moves are not copyrightable and can be published without paying royalties.

Avatar of HeisukeKogami

good idea, but bro makes it seem so easy to achieve it lol 😭

Avatar of Seriton7
kalafiorczyk wrote:

Sorry, I edited while you were positing your reply.

Please research the legal status of using various official titles in the media. For your own edification learn what had to be done to make sure that the chess moves are not copyrightable and can be published without paying royalties.

I thought it would work something like official titles, where you go through a verification process to prove that you actually hold that Arena title. Someone from the staff or moderation team at chess.com would need to comment on that.

Avatar of kalafiorczyk

OK, you completely don't understand what is legally involved. This isn't a problem for C.C to solve. This is an issue with FIDE (and other federations) and how they are itching to sue (and/or sanction) everyone.

Please read about the recent tiff about Freestyle Chess Championship.

Avatar of Martin_Stahl

My guess is that's not likely something the site would implement.

Avatar of Cornfed
HeisukeKogami wrote:

good idea, but bro makes it seem so easy to achieve it lol 😭

They are 'paper titles' that really mean nothing.

Chess.com implementing something like that...I think not. People would want them to be worth something...which means more cheating...

Avatar of uglyork

Good idea. The proposal of titles make honeypot arenas even more attractive for cheaters, and the detection team knows where just to slap.

Avatar of The_Blue_Streak

Great Idea! I like it!!

Avatar of The_Blue_Streak

They can give AGM's or even AIM's gold membership can they?

Avatar of Advanced_player1
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They can give AGM's or even AIM's gold membership can they?

then I'm going to farm aim.

Avatar of Combustify09

I think that it is easier to get rating on chess.com than on fide’s arena so that might be a reason to not have that on the site. Unless there was a huge rating deflation to get closer to the “real” ratings like FIDE and USCF.

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The_Blue_Streak wrote:

Great Idea! I like it!!

Same!

Avatar of Combustify09

Levy’s one chance at a GM title

Avatar of Cornfed
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Levy’s one chance at a GM title

Oooo that was cold!

Avatar of The_Blue_Streak

How about giving a gold membership to all FOA title holders??

Atleast AIM and AGM if they cannot give to AFM and ACM

Avatar of Martin_Stahl

Pretty confident Arena titles won't be recognized or get free premium.

Avatar of The_Blue_Streak
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Pretty confident Arena titles won't be recognized or get free premium.

Why??