it is better to make
a minimum of 3+ players will be preferable.
it is just a suggestion.
My purpose :
1) A Division : 30+ players
2) B Division : 10+ players
3) C Division : 3+ players
Any city can't catch the minimum of players automate goes one division down
Thanks Jim .-
I do not think there are several teams that have potential for 30 +.
To succeed for first year need elasticity.
For the Cities Cup and for 2011: Teams must play at least with 1/2 of he players with national flag and/or at least 1/3 of the players players with city flag.
WCL 2012: in about 2 weeks we will know the groups. Perth will play in 2nd division this year. 3 top tems will go to 1st division 2013
Think minimum five can be expected. otherwise the result may be not very meaningful... Is 5+ what we play now?
Thinking about it for long I see the rule with the "city" flag as uncontrollable. eg 70+ million people in Germany may play for Berlin, but for city state like Singapore only the 4+ million may play (obviously not all inhabitants play, but numbers comparable ratios for chess.com members). We have a city (+country) flag and most others they are country flags only...
16 teams from the final rounds of the 4th CWC
6 "top power" teams - but I don't really understand what this is, how it is measured, what date the measurement is effective and what list the 6 are chosen from
Another 10 teams are chosen from the Participation Round - structure is described in post 1 and 2
http://www.chess.com/groups/forumview/5th-cities-cup-2015---registration
10 teams who qualified are listed in post 1 http://www.chess.com/groups/forumview/5th-cities-cup-2015---participation-round?page=1 - although only 7 are listed - will this be updated with the correct 10 teams?
Is that clearer... (possibly not!)
Guidelines for the matches
Let's say that a minimum of 5 players is preferable for preliminary rounds
- Match name: 1st Cities Cup R1: Team 1 vs Team 2
(Example: 1st Cities Cup R1: New York vs Delhi)
- Match setings
Starting Position: Standard
Days per move: 3
Rating range: Open
Players: 5+
Concurrent games per opponent: 2
Auto Start: No
Rated: Yes
For the quarter final 8+ payers are needed, for the semi final 12+ players are needed and for the final 15+ players are needed
- A foreign country flag can not be more than 1 in the first 10 tables and more than 3 in the first 25 tables and not more than 5 in all tables. If more flags, all of extra flags matches will be declared as not played if the player won them and lost if he lost or draw. However, a game lost by time won't gain a point.
From 2016:
A foreign country flag (intl flag counts as a foreign flag) can not be more than 25% in all tables. If more flags, all of extra flags matches will be declared as lost. However, a game lost by time won't gain a point.
One player will not be able to play for two different teams in the cup for the same year, but he can belong to several teams and play other games. If such case occurs in a match, the winning games of that player will be annulled. In case a player is disqualified by chess.com or closed acount he loses all his games. However, a game lost by time won't gain a point.
In case of a draw a team wins when:
1) has more individual victories (in first ten table) or
2) has more individual victories with black pieces (in first ten table) or
3) has more individual victories with black pieces (in all tables except the 5 last tables)
4) All matches which had not be finished at least within 2 months, then if a player get more than 3-point advantage on his opponent, he would win. With only 3 points advantage or less the match would be declared a draw.
5) If a draw again, each team assigns a player of the specific match. They play 2 live chess games within a week. If draw again, the teams assign a different player and they play live chess within 5 days etc.
Unrated players are able to join the competition, this may skew the result of the matches. Should we introduce a rule regarding a minimum number of games played required per player?
Hi, everybody.
I can't understand this rule:
"From 2017: All matches which had not be finished on the sheduled day (60 days after the match has started or on the cutoff day if one) and a player get more than 3-point advantage on his opponent, he would win. With only 3 points advantage or less the match would be declared adraw."
When you say "a player" and when you say "3-point advantage", do you mean a whole Team and three games of advantage? or do you mean a person in one game and three material points (a minor piece or three pawns or similar) of advantage? I'm sorry, maybe it's an stupid question, but I'm not preaty sure what do you mean.
Guidelines for the matches
Let's say that a minimum of 5 players is preferable for preliminary rounds
See rules : https://www.chess.com/clubs/forum/view/cwc-rules-v2019
- Match name: 1st Cities Cup R1: Team 1 vs Team 2
(Example: 1st Cities Cup R1: New York vs Delhi)
- Match setings
Starting Position: Standard
Days per move: 3
Rating range: Open
Players: 5+
Concurrent games per opponent: 2
Auto Start: No
Rated: Yes
For the phase 16 6+ players are neededm for the quarter final 8+ payers are needed, for the semi final 12+ players are needed and for the final 15+ players are needed.
In case a match starts with less players for a team, the opponent team starts the match with extra winning points for the missing games (ex. if 2 players are missing from team A, team B starts with +4points).
From 2017 - A foreign country flag (including the international flag) can not be more than 25% on every 12 boards and in total. All of extra foreign flags games will be declared as lost, but their team will not be further penalized. However, a game lost on time won't gain a point. Boards that will be considered as extra foreign flags are even numbers of foreign flags in match (the second, the fourth, the sixth etc.). Exceptions are regions within a country recognized by UN (UK and England, Spain and Catalonia etc.). Additional exceptions from this rules can be granted on request at the annually start of the tournament by the WCL board and are published in a list in the appendix to the WCL rules.
Exceptions for 2017: Sevastopol runs with Ukraine and Russia flags, Prishtina runs with Kosovo and Albania flags
Older rule - A foreign country flag (Intl flag counts as a foreign flag. Flags playing separetely on EL or WL are different flags) can not be more than 25% in all tables. If more flags, all of extra flags matches will be declared as lost. However, a game lost by time won't gain a point. Will be considered as extra flag player the second, the fourth, the sixth etc.
- If a player is kicked out for cheating or account closed by Chess. com or multi-player, all of its matches will be declared as lost but his team will not be further penalized. However, a game lost by time won't gain a point.
- One player will not be able to play for two different teams in the league for the same year, but he can belong to several teams and play other games. If such case occurs in 2 or more CWC matches for each of 2 or more teams, all of its games will be declared as lost. However, a game lost by time won't gain a point.
In case of a draw a team wins when:
1) has more individual victories in first 12 tables (24 victories max.) or
2) has more individual victories with black pieces in first 12 table (12 max.) or
3) has more individual victories with black pieces (in all tables except the 5 last tables)
4) All matches which had not be finished at least within 2 months, then if a player get more than 3-point advantage on his opponent, he would win. With only 3 points advantage or less the match would be declared a draw.
5) If a draw again, each team assigns a player of the specific match. They play 2 live chess games within a week. If draw again, the teams assign a different player and they play live chess within 5 days etc.