How can I win the horde game as white?

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Hi everyone, I've played a lot of horde chess games. Every game had the result that black won! The side can easily win by sacrifice rooks, bishops and knights so that the queen kill the back rank. Have you ever won by checkmate or got stalemate, as white?

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thenomalnoob wrote:

Hi everyone, I've played a lot of horde chess games. Every game had the result that black won! The side can easily win by sacrifice rooks, bishops and knights so that the queen kill the back rank. Have you ever won by checkmate or got stalemate, as white?

I used to be top 10 on chess.com with 2200 rating. I then got bored and gave rating away bc I felt like it. But yes, you can win with white. For early rating, here’s what you do:

advance some pawns but not many.

begin solidifying (fill in holes by pushing pawns in your horde).

capture towards edge of board to limit breakthroughs as much as possible.

This should easily get you to 1900 (after 2000 it doesn’t work)

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lol its funny because i've never won with black. white is infinitely easier for me.

how do you win as black? lol

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PeetTheSockMan wrote:

lol its funny because i've never won with black. white is infinitely easier for me.

how do you win as black? lol

Two ways. One is simpler, other is long winded.

1st (easier): Sacrifice pieces on h or a file and initiate a breakthrough. Clear up back rank pawns but be mindful of pawns about to promote. 

2 (harder): create a fortress which weakens a file if pawns push (long winded zugzwang essentially). Once file gets too weak, break it and infiltrate.

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awesome, thanks happy.png

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PeetTheSockMan đã viết:

lol its funny because i've never won with black. white is infinitely easier for me.

how do you win as black? lol

That I play with you is a stressed game lol.

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Anirudh_23 đã viết:

1st (easier): Sacrifice pieces on h or a file and initiate a breakthrough. Clear up back rank pawns but be mindful of pawns about to promote.

That's why I or my opp. can't win as white.

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ZurichGhost đã viết:

next example game teach a nice game of white i lost to the gentlemen

https://www.chess.com/variants/horde/game/48218369/96/3

6 bxc6! important move. other moves lose to black 6...cxb5 7 cxb5 Bc7 following Bxa5 Qxa5 and a6 with strong queenside attack. move the 6 bxc6! is strong to prevent deep sac on queen's side (threat #2 as listed in top). in practical circumspection i lost the game because of the mistake 5...c6 so it were better to use 5...a6 after which i expect positional sacrifice 6 b6 by him to close the a-file.

Umm 32. g5 u should play hxg5, weaken the atk to king, from that u couldn't lose. And the sac of rook 38. e5 Rxe5 isn't necessary. It should stay to prevent to promote. So ur queen would assure the protection.

NORMALLY, IF BLACK MOVES EXACTLY, NO WAY WHITE WINS!

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thenomalnoob wrote:

Hi everyone, I've played a lot of horde chess games. Every game had the result that black won! The side can easily win by sacrifice rooks, bishops and knights so that the queen kill the back rank. Have you ever won by checkmate or got stalemate, as white?

Of course, for me it's even easier to win for white

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How can all of you win for white?????

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thenomalnoob wrote:

How can all of you win for white?????

bc I used to play horde 25 hours per day 8 days a week over 32 days a month and 13 months a year