How (Not) To Make a Variant

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ChessMasterGS wrote:

Keep in mind though that with enough design and testing effort, that a “small variant” can still be accepted. In the case of Minihouse, even an NCV with enough theory and all-around variety.

Flash forward to 2025 where Pocket Chess Challenge gets created:

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8.puzzled variant(eg Stay up):Complex and fun for casual,but not as a listing variant.

9.generic pocket chess(eg pointy garden):Not Unique

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In the #6 example, the “points” are even, but the values of pieces should be slightly different. For example, amazons are 8, rooks are 4, and sergeants are 2. Red has 24 points, which overpowers Yellow’s 16. In smaller 4PC boards I think that point values for pieces are not best, so P4M rules, for instance, would be a fair solution in those situations as long as it doesn’t take away the desired outcome (my WoF doesn’t work because zombie royals don’t award points). Storming the Castle doesn’t even use points, anyway, because it is Teams.

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ChocoCaramelPawn wrote:

Welcome to Chessy chess! A brand you chess variant with chess inside chess!

Here you have no idea where you king is or what pieces you have, but they all spell "Chess". Isn't that cool? This game is also not balanced or play tested, because who needs that? I decided to not add any bots (yes, you heard me right!) and instead combine every single rule possible! I listened to feedback from my last chess variant, and they said that putting ducks on the board and not letting them move is a crime to humanity. So, I just removed them from existence even though duck chess is enabled!

A LOT  Of ducks were harmed in this variant.

ALSO, HOW DID YOU MAKE YOUR BACKGROUND LOOK LIKE THAT????????????

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I made it myself)))

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MistMint wrote:

8.puzzled variant(eg Stay up):Complex and fun for casual,but not as a listing variant.

9.generic pocket chess(eg pointy garden):Not Unique

9 is similar to 1

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thundertoad2379 wrote:

10/10! I wish people would actually read this though.

They do, well, not most of them

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here's a very good example of where not to use Fog, for those concerned

https://www.chess.com/clubs/forum/view/wof-blind-maze

Why? You can't see anything other than about 12 squares!

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ChessMasterGS wrote:

1. "Upgraded" Chess

wait till people start pointing out Amazon Safety, Battle Of Castles, and Versatility lol

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2bHNST wrote:

wait till people start pointing out Amazon Safety, Battle Of Castles, and Versatility lol

is upgraded with extra steps

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I was browsing a lot of posts about variants because I was excited after creating a crazy new custom position, only to find out you don't like horses! Jokes aside can't believe I created the position in the first pic (except the pawns were regular) and I thought it was gonna be the hot new thing (I still think it's pretty fun).

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boris7943 wrote:

I was browsing a lot of posts about variants because I was excited after creating a crazy new custom position, only to find out you don't like horses! Jokes aside can't believe I created the position in the first pic (except the pawns were regular) and I thought it was gonna be the hot new thing (I still think it's pretty fun).

I mean, knightchess isn't too bad if you manage to make it interesting (see Amazon Safety and Versatility), but just buffed pieces on its own isn't good.

I'm bold enough to say that, at this point in time, any 2p rectangle-board position that's just a row of pawns and 1-2 rows of pieces with no other game rules isn't unique.

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2bHNST wrote:
boris7943 wrote:

I was browsing a lot of posts about variants because I was excited after creating a crazy new custom position, only to find out you don't like horses! Jokes aside can't believe I created the position in the first pic (except the pawns were regular) and I thought it was gonna be the hot new thing (I still think it's pretty fun).

I mean, knightchess isn't too bad if you manage to make it interesting (see Amazon Safety and Versatility), but just buffed pieces on its own isn't good.

I'm bold enough to say that, at this point in time, any position that's just a row of pawns and 1-2 rows of pieces with no other game rules isn't unique.

Acheron would like to have a word (jk)

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VishTheFish771 wrote:
2bHNST wrote:
boris7943 wrote:

I was browsing a lot of posts about variants because I was excited after creating a crazy new custom position, only to find out you don't like horses! Jokes aside can't believe I created the position in the first pic (except the pawns were regular) and I thought it was gonna be the hot new thing (I still think it's pretty fun).

I'm bold enough to say that, at this point in time, any position that's just a row of pawns and 1-2 rows of pieces with no other game rules isn't unique.

Acheron would like to have a word (jk)

That has hill and an 8+ Dababa-rider royal bruv

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2bHNST wrote:
boris7943 wrote:

I was browsing a lot of posts about variants because I was excited after creating a crazy new custom position, only to find out you don't like horses! Jokes aside can't believe I created the position in the first pic (except the pawns were regular) and I thought it was gonna be the hot new thing (I still think it's pretty fun).

I mean, knightchess isn't too bad if you manage to make it interesting (see Amazon Safety and Versatility), but just buffed pieces on its own isn't good.

I'm bold enough to say that, at this point in time, any position that's just a row of pawns and 1-2 rows of pieces with no other game rules isn't unique.

Stereo madness?

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ChocoCaramelPawn wrote:
2bHNST wrote:
boris7943 wrote:
 

I'm bold enough to say that, at this point in time, any position that's just a row of pawns and 1-2 rows of pieces with no other game rules isn't unique.

Stereo madness?

fatal+petrified iirc

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thundertoad2379 wrote:

10/10! I wish people would actually read this though.

its halarius, and i learned a little. ive seen so many diffrent variantd like some of those

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josephruhf wrote:
Nyutixbrother wrote:

4.b is just lone king war with an extra rank, and it doesn't change the gameplay at all

Why would someone even design a variant that small? It just limits what pieces you should use too much.

Pocket Chess:

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