KIA based repertoire starting from 1. Nf3

Hello. I'm looking for some advice. More particularly, what should I do in the following lines if I'd like to reach a playable KIA:

A) 1. Nf3 d5 2. g3 c5 3. Bg2 Nc6 - should I really carry on with 4. 0-0 so that I get 4. ... e5 ?

B) 1. Nf3 d5 2. g3 Nc6 - and ...e5 seems to be coming again

C) 1. Nf3 Nc6 - the same issue with ...e5

D) 1. Nf3 Nf6 - and now after 2. g3 the opponent can do whatever he/she wants (while I'm already devoted to fianchettoing my bishop)

In general I am worrying about (1) the opponent playing e5 (I've heard KIA is not playable in such a case) and (2) the opponent playing symmetrically (KIA vs KID). What are proper plans for such cases?

You're line B has a missing move by white, I'm assuming you meant 1. Nf3 d5 2. g3 Nc6?

"the opponent can do whatever he/she wants"

When you play the KIA, unfortunately, this is going to be the case for the most part, it's just not forcing enough, but what you get in return is positions you may understand better.

I'm not familiar with 1. Nf3 lines, but A) looks like a King's Indian defense with colors reversed, and B) and C) looks like a Pirc with colors reversed, D) is too early to tell.

If you study some KID/Pirc games, it might give you some ideas.

A) 4. 0-0 e5 5. d6 e4 is not so great [for black] after 6. dxe dxe 7. QxQ+

B) Same as A)

C) Same again

D) White's LSB is good to fianchetto here. c6 - at the right time - can always make black think for a while!

In the KIA White wants to set-up the formation seen here. Move order is not as critical as in other openings, but of course it still matters. Other moves not shown which are common and thematic are c3 and Re1. Don't worry about the Bc1, it will come out when it's ready.

You have a lot of questions and I strongly recommend you get a book or two. There is a list of books in the group forum and I can see it needs to be updated. I will try to do that soon.

https://www.chess.com/groups/forumview/kia-references

I recommend either Emms or Dunnington for a KIA newbie. If you chose Emms, then I have compiled lists of the example games which are referenced in the book, with clickable links to database versions of those games. It is a public group and you need not join to access the forum pages. Just playing through the games even without the book would probably answer a lot of your questions.

https://www.chess.com/groups/forumview/kiaemms--contents

Some of your questions reflect concerns about moves that you don't need to worry about. It would be helpful to you if you were to play your lines in some of the online databases to see what moves you really do need to be concerned about. I do not recommend the database here at c.c because it is small and has bugs. Here are my favorites:

Thank you very much for the responses. I'm glad to see that black's e5 is not the end of the world for my KIA. Also, as suggested, I've bought both Emms and Dunnington and will use them for my introduction into the world of the KIA (thank you very much for the link to Emms' games - it is very useful). Soon, I hope, I'll provide a game or two of me for your review.

I have nearly finished the study companion for Dunnington. (One more chapter to go) so here is a link. I compile these lists for my own use and then with a little formatting I can make them available to others.

I have reproduced none of the text due to copyright restraints. I believe very much in the right of people to own what they produce. These go well if a person has the book, and if not then they are just good examples of how to play the KIA. In some cases... how NOT to play it.

https://www.chess.com/groups/forumview/kiadunn---contents

Against Nc6-d5-e5 setup / c5-d5-e5 setup/ or d6-e5 setup, you can simply play c4 instead of e4, pressuring d5 with the threat of opening up the a8-h1 diagonal, which gives you clear goals and long-term tactical opportunities along this light-squared diagonal and on open c- or e-file:

PS: I think I have read that the KIA vs KID is playable, don't worry, it's just branded "boring to death" for reasons I ignore.

I open with Nf3, not e4, so I was glad to find this forum. And thanks for the analysis, Merovwig.

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 live chess 5/5 minute game. think i played well in the time.