Meme stuff

The abiding problem for all who reject a naturalistic explanation for 'Life, The Universe and Everything' ~ sorry but I grew up on The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy ~ is that it does not get them to the place they most want to be, that described by the central holy text of their particular religion.

While the creation myths of ancient peoples are interesting, they're no more than myths: Tales told around camp fires for tens of thousands of years, amended a little from generation to generation and finally committed to the written form.

Decide to believe that some unspecified entity created the Cosmos and life by allmeans but don't imagine that you know any more about such a supposed entity.

You don't have a naturalistic explanation of the universe and everything. If you do I'd like to read about it or present a link I will watch.

If mystery surrounds any possible naturalistic explanation for 'creation', it most certainly surrounds any non-naturalistic one!

But I'm under no obligation to come up with an explanation for anything, other than my own behaviour.  😊

Yes, you can reject the only explanation that covers all the bases without being able to show what the actual explanation should be, and do so acknowledging you got nothing.

"the only explanation that covers all the bases" - that's a very problematic claim.

Those who promote non-natural causes for the Universe and life often seem to be uncomfortable or reluctant to consider the much wider context in which both of these things took place. That's to say, the many hundreds of millions (/billions) of years it took for heavier elements to be formed in stars, essential for life and the rocky planet(s) necessary to host it.

You've all but admitted in the past that there has to be a non-natural (supernatural) beginning to all things. 
   Are you now recanting?

You simply have one really big hole in your stance, we are talking about the beginning of all things natural. Which means since nature can’t be responsible for its own beginning then something else is responsible. 

Who has? I think you must mean someone else because I have no memory of doing any such thing.

For one thing I have no idea of what the 'non-natural' might be.

Just because something can't create itself doesn't mean that whatever caused our Universe to emerge was not natural in some sense. There're theoretical models that require no 'magical' components.

What? Just because what is natural cannot create itself doesn't mean a natural cause cannot create itself, is that what you mean? If nature cannot create itself, then the answer for the creation of nature will not be found by looking at nature. 

   It's easy to see unless you squeeze your eyes shut.

   In the morning when the sunlight comes in your bedroom you can see the light, even with your eyes closed, unless you squeeze them shut real tight.

#55

I heard a guy in California was advertising solar powered clothes dryers in the newspapers in the 1990s. If you sent him $30, he sent you a shoe string and a clothespin.

Consumers tried to sue him of course. But the courts ruled that he fulfilled his obligation.