Let's start calling the Mann a King
Modernizing Chaturanga
So, uh, has anyone actually tried this variant and played it with other people before making a judgement on the point values
@ChessMasterGS
Yes we are
and also alfil+ferz=2
non-royal king=2
I agree, I don’t know why people don’t know basic math these days because 1+1=2, not 3
So, uh, has anyone actually tried this variant and played it with other people before making a judgement on the point values
I made a Interactive diagram on chessvariants.com and these are the results about the pieces value (in centipawns):

But I completely disagree with the values of the pieces, the Value of the Knight should be higher than the man and also higher than the elephant and the rooks should be worth 5 points (or 500 centipawns), I also played some matches against AI and the knight was doing better than the man even in endgames
non-royal king=2
Non-royal king is worth 3!!! if any king is to be worth 2 it should be a royal king!!!!!
non-royal king=2
Non-royal king is worth 3!!! if any king is to be worth 2 it should be a royal king!!!!!
Then show me things a Non-royal king can do that a knight can’t do
non-royal king=2
Non-royal king is worth 3!!! if any king is to be worth 2 it should be a royal king!!!!!
The Wazir is worth 1 point, the Ferz is also worth 1 point, 1+1=2
non-royal king=2
Non-royal king is worth 3!!! if any king is to be worth 2 it should be a royal king!!!!!
The Wazir is worth 1 point, the Ferz is also worth 1 point, 1+1=2
Yes, and the non-royal king is 2.
It is very slow and can easily be trapped, I might even dare to say 1.75 or even 1.5
dude its 3 its a compound of wazir and ferz which are both 1.5 points and is great for protecting pieces and the king youre just thinking about scenarios it would be bad in instead of good too
non-royal king=2
Non-royal king is worth 3!!! if any king is to be worth 2 it should be a royal king!!!!!
The Wazir is worth 1 point, the Ferz is also worth 1 point, 1+1=2
source??
non-royal king=2
Non-royal king is worth 3!!! if any king is to be worth 2 it should be a royal king!!!!!
Then show me things a Non-royal king can do that a knight can’t do
It can triangulate, defend pawns really well, defend the king really well, lead in checkmating attacks, create opposition on the enemy king, be able to checkmate with one of them, etc etc
non-royal king=2
It can triangulate, defend pawns, defend the king, lead in checkmating attacks, create opposition on the enemy king, be able to checkmate with one of them, etc etc
Exactly! It can even prevent Rook invasions on opened files! The non-royal king is a very useful piece!!
non-royal king=2
Non-royal king is worth 3!!! if any king is to be worth 2 it should be a royal king!!!!!
The Wazir is worth 1 point, the Ferz is also worth 1 point, 1+1=2
source??
Math
non-royal king=2
It can triangulate, defend pawns, defend the king, lead in checkmating attacks, create opposition on the enemy king, be able to checkmate with one of them, etc etc
Exactly! It can even prevent Rook invasions on opened files! The non-royal king is a very useful piece!!
Okay but the knight also can block rooks controlling open files
Okay but the knight also can block rooks controlling open files
Not really ^^^^^^^^^^^^
Okay but the knight also can block rooks controlling open files
Not really ^^^^^^^^^^^^
Sometimes yes
Mann means husband in german