Yes, I do reject that, but carbon dating isn't totally unreliable. Like I said before, God could've created an aged earth. For what reason? I don't know. God's ways are not our ways, and our ways are not God's.
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No. I am saying that God could've created a pre aged earth.
Jun 18, 2019
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#104
JayHunterBrickwood wrote:
No. I am saying that God could've created a pre aged earth.
Do you ever stop & ask yourself if what you're saying/writing makes any sense?
Can you think of a single credible reason why your deity would do that?
Jun 18, 2019
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#105
I explained that a magic chicken that has the power to do anything could have created the world in its entirety as well (last Wednesday, if you like).
It is not a good hypothesis, but there is no identifiable way in which it is inferior to yours.
Can you think of one single credible reason he wouldn't? No human fully understands God. We don't know what he did when he created everything.
Yes, but a magic chicken doesn't exist; God does, however.
Jun 18, 2019
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#108
sciencechimp2004 wrote:
Perhaps so that the first humans could have natural food and ecosystems to support the earth?
I assume that's in reply to my question to this:
JayHunterBrickwood wrote:
No. I am saying that God could've created a pre aged earth.
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But to provide "natural food and ecosystems", why would the Earth need to be 'pre-aged'? We're discussing a process (natural selection) that takes hundreds of millions of years to take effect, so in that context, why would your 'God' make our world appear to be that old?
Why would a deity arrange things so carefully as to seem that the Earth is over 4000,000000 years old if it's truly only 10,000?
Jun 18, 2019
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#109
JayHunterBrickwood wrote:
Yes, but a magic chicken doesn't exist; God does, however.
Most probably only in your mind & in the minds of believers like you?
Beyond your faith & words written in ancient texts, do you have any other substantial reason to believe in it?
Listen here, I know my God is real, because of what he has done for me and people I know, we're not just a bunch of idiots looking up at a pie in the sky, and I know this is kind of off-topic, but God is not a God of our mind, if He was a God of our minds then why would we believe that we should not sin, and why would we dedicate hours to Bible study and prayer? Why would we say that there is an everlasting punishment for people who die wicked sinners, which most of humanity is?
And no, I don't have any other reason to believe it, besides the fact I believe the Bible is true, and that I know in my heart it is right.
Jun 18, 2019
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#111
JayHunterBrickwood wrote:
Can you think of one single credible reason he wouldn't? No human fully understands God. We don't know what he did when he created everything.
A question I've posed several times to YEC's is why 'God' would create a planet & Universe in such a way as to give an utterly misleading impression of their ages?
If you argue that your deity might do such a thing for reasons our puny minds can't possibly fathom, then that's all very well but it raises another problem for you...
If 'God' orders creation in such a way as to deliberately deceive us, how can anything in scripture, coming from the mouth of 'God', ever be trusted?
I didn't say he did it in a way to deceive us, I said he could have had reasons to make it such.
Jun 18, 2019
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#113
JayHunterBrickwood wrote:
.... I know this is kind of off-topic, ....
Yes, it really is so do you have anything to ask on the subject of Natural Selection?
Are you even interested in understanding what it means?
Yes, and I have. AKA Survival of the fittest.
Jun 19, 2019
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#115
But do you understand what "Survival of the fittest" means in the context of natural selection?
The thing that has, say camouflage will survive, and the thing that doesn't won't.
Jun 19, 2019
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#117
That's a good example as long as the camourflaged animal avoids becoming lunch!
Of course what's really vital is that creatures are 'fit' in the sense that they're able to perpetuate their advantageous genes via their offspring. In the case of our own species, that implies being able to protect the young until they're able to survive independently.
Yeah.
stephen_33 wrote:
That's a good example as long as the camourflaged animal avoids becoming lunch!
Of course what's really vital is that creatures are 'fit' in the sense that they're able to perpetuate their advantageous genes via their offspring. In the case of our own species, that implies being able to protect the young until they're able to survive independently.
We're for sure not doing a great job of that with abortion in the world today
Who said I deny science?
You've denied the science of radiometric dating more than once! It's that method that has established the age of the earth at some 4.6 billion years.
You utterly reject that conclusion - yes?