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Queen, Bishop, Rook, Knight on the 11th rank

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Alibabas are the perfect extra pair of pieces that you can add to the classic game without changing it too much. In this NCV they fit just right on the extra pair of squares behind both players' king and queen. These squares are also designed to maneuver with knights, bishops, queens, double rooks, hide the king, and probably more.
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Status: Declined

Reason: The game does not possess sufficient quality or uniqueness: the alibabas don't change too much in the gameplay except for making it overall worse, and there exists a myriad of permutations of the newly-added pieces that can achieve the same result, as such the placements of the newly-added pieces are not justified and are spammed as such. In addition, we have already had these types of submissions before and declined them due to the gameplay issues.

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Say it in open testing 

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how i can say "-1" in open testing

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Would you add an option to be able to choose the pieces of the board that we want to be randomly shuffled (like in chess960 or paradigm)?

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how i can say "-1" in open testing

Join it and type it in the chat (unless you’re chat-banned)

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proob32njjj 写道:

how i can say "-1" in open testing

Join it and type it in the chat (unless you’re chat-banned)

i talk, but not working

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while i understand and agree with the evaluation, i think duck chess would also fall under this category, wouldn't it?

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jaakezzz wrote:

i think duck chess would also fall under this category

It doesn't fit with one of the most important parts:

there exists a myriad of permutations of the newly-added pieces that can achieve the same result

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ah so since the only new thing is very linear it's not as different? Whereas the duck completely changes the game (for the worse imo lol)

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I mean I get it, Alibaba are not a really exciting piece (not mentioning their kinda ugly looking), and I kiiiind of understand the permutations thing.

They being just "spammed" on the position it's something I do not totally agree.  Imo, they are at least better "spammed" than Archbishop and chancellor on gothic chess.

I guess I´m not trying to say my NCV deserves to be added, maybe I'm just saying, as jaakezzz is too, that maybe fun and uniqueness needs to be double checked on maybe a pair of the alrdy existing variants.

But I like duck chess, even tho I rlly suck at it.

good vibes only.

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Brauliocrates wrote:

I mean I get it, Alibaba are not a really exciting piece (not mentioning their kinda ugly looking), and I kiiiind of understand the permutations thing.

They being just "spammed" on the position it's something I do not totally agree.  Imo, they are at least better "spammed" than Archbishop and chancellor on gothic chess.

I guess I´m not trying to say my NCV deserves to be added, maybe I'm just saying, as jaakezzz is too, that maybe fun and uniqueness needs to be double checked on maybe a pair of the alrdy existing variants.

But I like duck chess, even tho I rlly suck at it.

good vibes only.

Gothic Chess is the only of 500+ existing permutations that have been analyzed by Ed Trice either manually or via an engine that possesses a sufficient balance and variety as well as strategy variety, and enough openings as well.

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Thank You. I didn't know that. 

Would be cool to have one of those.

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Brauliocrates wrote:

 

Alibabas are the perfect extra pair of pieces that you can add to the classic game without changing it too much. In this NCV they fit just right on the extra pair of squares behind both players' king and queen. These squares are also designed to maneuver with knights, bishops, queens, double rooks, hide the king, and probably more.

Why not alibaba riders instead of rooks instead, Amazon instead of queen 

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if you add the 2 extra squares on the sides as well and make the alibaba's riders instead then you could get some interesting fianchetto games.