Official Stance on the #Yestocussing movement

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Nah your the owner. You deserve it.

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Why limit it? If you think it’s okay for people to swear, then you should let them swear. From my point of view, if you want to set a limit on swear words that means you don’t want people to do it too much. That could mean you don’t want a bad reputation, don’t want it to be an unsafe club, or you don’t want it to get out of hand. I understand that this is kind of finding the happy medium between swearing and not swearing, but if it’s in the chess.com rules, and they run this entire website, I’m sure they have good reason.

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ohyummypizzahut wrote:
hiryanli wrote:
hughienews wrote:
hiryanli wrote:

I understand your point. But sometimes when a person is having a very bad day and another person is being very rude, you just gotta let it out. You don't want to cramp your anger into a tiny ball and let it gather more power until it explodes like a volcano. Cussing can make you feel more calm and relieved in some cases.  You might be thinking "Hey man why did you cuss bro? That is not cool. Ya could have just told me."  Research shows that cussing can help us cope with pain better. "Swearing can have a truly liberating effect when we’re feeling bottled up with frustration. Saying the F-word, or similar, can have an immediate calming impact on the difficult emotions we might be experiencing,” said Dr. Raffaello Antonino, a counseling psychologist. This shows how we can feel better when someone is being rude and also shows us it helps a lot when we are having overwhelming emotions.

yeah, I can see that. so what's your proposal?

hiryanli: I suggest we let people to cuss, just not too much like 3 times a day. If they do, give them a warning, talk to them to them and ask what is wrong. Then talk it out. After that, problem solved.

Maybe. But just cuz you say sorry doesn't take away the hurt feelings and the hurt hearts. Cussing is like murdering, murdering of the heart. You can never take back those words or stop the hurt feelings. You ruin the relationship with that person forever. 

People only cuss to stand up for themselves. Or stand up for their friends. Those who can't control when to cuss wouldn't follow the rules.

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FaithfulServant wrote:

Why limit it? If you think it’s okay for people to swear, then you should let them swear. From my point of view, if you want to set a limit on swear words that means you don’t want people to do it too much. That could mean you don’t want a bad reputation, don’t want it to be an unsafe club, or you don’t want it to get out of hand. I understand that this is kind of finding the happy medium between swearing and not swearing, but if it’s in the chess.com rules, and they run this entire website, I’m sure they have good reason.

We don't want it to be a problem for our club. There might be those who intensionally start up a conflict because of the un-limited cussing rule. It happens.

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Good with me. 

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FaithfulServant wrote:

I would say no. I understand swearing can get things out, but just because it makes you feel better doesn’t mean it’s right. There is a reason why swear words are put in a designated category. I also personally don’t like it when people swear because I hear it too much at home. I’m also Christian and I believe swearing is wrong. A lot of times people swear for the smallest thing. Why say that when you could just say crud or crap instead? There are alternatives. When I hear or see someone swearing it makes me scared to be honest. Because from my experience, when people are swearing, people are mad. I’ve seen what people can do when they’re mad. People swear when they are fighting. People swear when they are mad. Angry. Hostile. Pick your word. 

According to some study, swearing is a way to figure things out without getting physical. But I understand why you feel scared. But you have to understand this: swearing is a part of life. You can't live a life without hearing a person to cuss. Like I said, if a person starts swearing, we will delete the mean things, and talk to that person to you know, make them feel better. We will run this as a test to see how it does. It is a pretty big risk. But what fun is life if we don't take risks?

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i do not like the sound of this

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ohyummypizzahut wrote:
hiryanli wrote:
hughienews wrote:
hiryanli wrote:

I understand your point. But sometimes when a person is having a very bad day and another person is being very rude, you just gotta let it out. You don't want to cramp your anger into a tiny ball and let it gather more power until it explodes like a volcano. Cussing can make you feel more calm and relieved in some cases.  You might be thinking "Hey man why did you cuss bro? That is not cool. Ya could have just told me."  Research shows that cussing can help us cope with pain better. "Swearing can have a truly liberating effect when we’re feeling bottled up with frustration. Saying the F-word, or similar, can have an immediate calming impact on the difficult emotions we might be experiencing,” said Dr. Raffaello Antonino, a counseling psychologist. This shows how we can feel better when someone is being rude and also shows us it helps a lot when we are having overwhelming emotions.

yeah, I can see that. so what's your proposal?

hiryanli: I suggest we let people to cuss, just not too much like 3 times a day. If they do, give them a warning, talk to them to them and ask what is wrong. Then talk it out. After that, problem solved.

Maybe. But just cuz you say sorry doesn't take away the hurt feelings and the hurt hearts. Cussing is like murdering, murdering of the heart. You can never take back those words or stop the hurt feelings. You ruin the relationship with that person forever. 

Exactly. I can’t count the amount of times my dad has sworn at me. And I don’t exactly want to talk about it here, but if I have to I will. My home life isn’t the best. It’s not the worst either, but it certainly isn’t safe. I don’t need apologies or ‘I’m sorry’s i just need y’all to listen. My dad never used to swear at me. But lately (this past year or two) he has been. He swears and calls me swear words. He calls me a piece of crap, that I don’t do crap around the house, etc. my mom swears at me, though not as much, and my twin brother emotionally abuses me as well as bullies and calls me names. I’ll walk past or anywhere near him and hear him mumble a swear word about me under his breath. You might not be able to mumble a swear word here, but you can still swear. Sure it’s different to be called a swear than to swear. But I can’t count the amount of times I have heard someone start a fight, a really bad fight, and start swearing and screaming in someone else’s face. It causes fear. Or to hear someone start swearing at something that happened. I don’t know the background of the other 200 something people in LTAC, but I know I wouldn’t want to hear people swearing around me. I wouldn’t feel safe.

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yeah i agree with ITA

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hiryanli wrote:
FaithfulServant wrote:

I would say no. I understand swearing can get things out, but just because it makes you feel better doesn’t mean it’s right. There is a reason why swear words are put in a designated category. I also personally don’t like it when people swear because I hear it too much at home. I’m also Christian and I believe swearing is wrong. A lot of times people swear for the smallest thing. Why say that when you could just say crud or crap instead? There are alternatives. When I hear or see someone swearing it makes me scared to be honest. Because from my experience, when people are swearing, people are mad. I’ve seen what people can do when they’re mad. People swear when they are fighting. People swear when they are mad. Angry. Hostile. Pick your word. 

According to some study, swearing is a way to figure things out without getting physical. But I understand why you feel scared. But you have to understand this: swearing is a part of life. You can't live a life without hearing a person to cuss. Like I said, if a person starts swearing, we will delete the mean things, and talk to that person to you know, make them feel better. We will run this as a test to see how it does. It is a pretty big risk. But what fun is life if we don't take risks?

I understand swearing is a part of life. But why do we need to say that? It’s a part of life even though we know it’s wrong? We still swear because it lets out feelings out? You could call a friend and talk to them to let your feelings out. You could yell and scream to let your feelings out. But if you say it’s a part of life, that means you’ve accepted it. I know it’s a part of life. But that doesn’t mean I’ll swear.

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FaithfulServant wrote:
ohyummypizzahut wrote:
hiryanli wrote:
hughienews wrote:
hiryanli wrote:

I understand your point. But sometimes when a person is having a very bad day and another person is being very rude, you just gotta let it out. You don't want to cramp your anger into a tiny ball and let it gather more power until it explodes like a volcano. Cussing can make you feel more calm and relieved in some cases.  You might be thinking "Hey man why did you cuss bro? That is not cool. Ya could have just told me."  Research shows that cussing can help us cope with pain better. "Swearing can have a truly liberating effect when we’re feeling bottled up with frustration. Saying the F-word, or similar, can have an immediate calming impact on the difficult emotions we might be experiencing,” said Dr. Raffaello Antonino, a counseling psychologist. This shows how we can feel better when someone is being rude and also shows us it helps a lot when we are having overwhelming emotions.

yeah, I can see that. so what's your proposal?

hiryanli: I suggest we let people to cuss, just not too much like 3 times a day. If they do, give them a warning, talk to them to them and ask what is wrong. Then talk it out. After that, problem solved.

Maybe. But just cuz you say sorry doesn't take away the hurt feelings and the hurt hearts. Cussing is like murdering, murdering of the heart. You can never take back those words or stop the hurt feelings. You ruin the relationship with that person forever. 

Exactly. I can’t count the amount of times my dad has sworn at me. And I don’t exactly want to talk about it here, but if I have to I will. My home life isn’t the best. It’s not the worst either, but it certainly isn’t safe. I don’t need apologies or ‘I’m sorry’s i just need y’all to listen. My dad never used to swear at me. But lately (this past year or two) he has been. He swears and calls me swear words. He calls me a piece of crap, that I don’t do crap around the house, etc. my mom swears at me, though not as much, and my twin brother emotionally abuses me as well as bullies and calls me names. I’ll walk past or anywhere near him and hear him mumble a swear word about me under his breath. You might not be able to mumble a swear word here, but you can still swear. Sure it’s different to be called a swear than to swear. But I can’t count the amount of times I have heard someone start a fight, a really bad fight, and start swearing and screaming in someone else’s face. It causes fear. Or to hear someone start swearing at something that happened. I don’t know the background of the other 200 something people in LTAC, but I know I wouldn’t want to hear people swearing around me. I wouldn’t feel safe.

You gotta try to ignore this... You need to show them you are tough who wouldn't be offended. When pps are mad, they do things they didn't mean. Try to consider at their angle and think what would you think or say? There is a reason behind everything. Besides, if you are Christian, why do your parents still cuss?

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I AM GETTING ANNOYED WITH ALL THE LONG READING PASSAGES!!?!??!?!
ARE WE IN ELA CLASS?

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FaithfulServant wrote:
hiryanli wrote:
FaithfulServant wrote:

I would say no. I understand swearing can get things out, but just because it makes you feel better doesn’t mean it’s right. There is a reason why swear words are put in a designated category. I also personally don’t like it when people swear because I hear it too much at home. I’m also Christian and I believe swearing is wrong. A lot of times people swear for the smallest thing. Why say that when you could just say crud or crap instead? There are alternatives. When I hear or see someone swearing it makes me scared to be honest. Because from my experience, when people are swearing, people are mad. I’ve seen what people can do when they’re mad. People swear when they are fighting. People swear when they are mad. Angry. Hostile. Pick your word. 

According to some study, swearing is a way to figure things out without getting physical. But I understand why you feel scared. But you have to understand this: swearing is a part of life. You can't live a life without hearing a person to cuss. Like I said, if a person starts swearing, we will delete the mean things, and talk to that person to you know, make them feel better. We will run this as a test to see how it does. It is a pretty big risk. But what fun is life if we don't take risks?

I understand swearing is a part of life. But why do we need to say that? It’s a part of life even though we know it’s wrong? We still swear because it lets out feelings out? You could call a friend and talk to them to let your feelings out. You could yell and scream to let your feelings out. But if you say it’s a part of life, that means you’ve accepted it. I know it’s a part of life. But that doesn’t mean I’ll swear.

Yes. Which is why you need to be careful what you wanna say. I am not saying we should all do this, but we HAVE TO let out our feelings sometimes. I mean emotions are hard to control, especially when you are mad.

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BlunderTheBlunderer wrote:

I AM GETTING ANNOYED WITH ALL THE LONG READING PASSAGES!!?!??!?!
ARE WE IN ELA CLASS?

No phycology class.

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ohyummypizzahut wrote:
hiryanli wrote:
ohyummypizzahut wrote:
hiryanli wrote:
hughienews wrote:
hiryanli wrote:

I understand your point. But sometimes when a person is having a very bad day and another person is being very rude, you just gotta let it out. You don't want to cramp your anger into a tiny ball and let it gather more power until it explodes like a volcano. Cussing can make you feel more calm and relieved in some cases.  You might be thinking "Hey man why did you cuss bro? That is not cool. Ya could have just told me."  Research shows that cussing can help us cope with pain better. "Swearing can have a truly liberating effect when we’re feeling bottled up with frustration. Saying the F-word, or similar, can have an immediate calming impact on the difficult emotions we might be experiencing,” said Dr. Raffaello Antonino, a counseling psychologist. This shows how we can feel better when someone is being rude and also shows us it helps a lot when we are having overwhelming emotions.

yeah, I can see that. so what's your proposal?

hiryanli: I suggest we let people to cuss, just not too much like 3 times a day. If they do, give them a warning, talk to them to them and ask what is wrong. Then talk it out. After that, problem solved.

Maybe. But just cuz you say sorry doesn't take away the hurt feelings and the hurt hearts. Cussing is like murdering, murdering of the heart. You can never take back those words or stop the hurt feelings. You ruin the relationship with that person forever. 

People only cuss to stand up for themselves. Or stand up for their friends. Those who can't control when to cuss wouldn't follow the rules.

Uh-huh. But you can't deny it hurts people. Even if it is for "a good cause". That's like saying "I robbed  the bank so I could give the money I stole to an orphanage." That doesn't justify what you did. Just cause you were defending a friend by cussing doesn't mean it's right, or, for that matter, good.

Yes. But you shouldn't just ignore it and push the feeling aside because it can activate again in the future. Emotions are a thing that is hard to control.

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hiryanli wrote:
FaithfulServant wrote:
ohyummypizzahut wrote:
hiryanli wrote:
hughienews wrote:
hiryanli wrote:

I understand your point. But sometimes when a person is having a very bad day and another person is being very rude, you just gotta let it out. You don't want to cramp your anger into a tiny ball and let it gather more power until it explodes like a volcano. Cussing can make you feel more calm and relieved in some cases.  You might be thinking "Hey man why did you cuss bro? That is not cool. Ya could have just told me."  Research shows that cussing can help us cope with pain better. "Swearing can have a truly liberating effect when we’re feeling bottled up with frustration. Saying the F-word, or similar, can have an immediate calming impact on the difficult emotions we might be experiencing,” said Dr. Raffaello Antonino, a counseling psychologist. This shows how we can feel better when someone is being rude and also shows us it helps a lot when we are having overwhelming emotions.

yeah, I can see that. so what's your proposal?

hiryanli: I suggest we let people to cuss, just not too much like 3 times a day. If they do, give them a warning, talk to them to them and ask what is wrong. Then talk it out. After that, problem solved.

Maybe. But just cuz you say sorry doesn't take away the hurt feelings and the hurt hearts. Cussing is like murdering, murdering of the heart. You can never take back those words or stop the hurt feelings. You ruin the relationship with that person forever. 

Exactly. I can’t count the amount of times my dad has sworn at me. And I don’t exactly want to talk about it here, but if I have to I will. My home life isn’t the best. It’s not the worst either, but it certainly isn’t safe. I don’t need apologies or ‘I’m sorry’s i just need y’all to listen. My dad never used to swear at me. But lately (this past year or two) he has been. He swears and calls me swear words. He calls me a piece of crap, that I don’t do crap around the house, etc. my mom swears at me, though not as much, and my twin brother emotionally abuses me as well as bullies and calls me names. I’ll walk past or anywhere near him and hear him mumble a swear word about me under his breath. You might not be able to mumble a swear word here, but you can still swear. Sure it’s different to be called a swear than to swear. But I can’t count the amount of times I have heard someone start a fight, a really bad fight, and start swearing and screaming in someone else’s face. It causes fear. Or to hear someone start swearing at something that happened. I don’t know the background of the other 200 something people in LTAC, but I know I wouldn’t want to hear people swearing around me. I wouldn’t feel safe.

You gotta try to ignore this... You need to show them you are tough who wouldn't be offended. When pps are mad, they do things they didn't mean. Try to consider at their angle and think what would you think or say? There is a reason behind everything. Besides, if you are Christian, why do your parents still cuss?

Because my parents don’t care. My twin brother says he’s Christian yet he still emotionally abuses me. My older brother says he’s Christian but with the names he calls me, my brother, and my mom, he sure isn’t. My dad says he’s Christian but he hasn’t come to church in months. He still hits me. He says he’s Christian yet he still calls me names. My mom says she’s Christian yet she still swears and calls me names.

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hiryanli wrote:
ohyummypizzahut wrote:
hiryanli wrote:
ohyummypizzahut wrote:
hiryanli wrote:
hughienews wrote:
hiryanli wrote:

I understand your point. But sometimes when a person is having a very bad day and another person is being very rude, you just gotta let it out. You don't want to cramp your anger into a tiny ball and let it gather more power until it explodes like a volcano. Cussing can make you feel more calm and relieved in some cases.  You might be thinking "Hey man why did you cuss bro? That is not cool. Ya could have just told me."  Research shows that cussing can help us cope with pain better. "Swearing can have a truly liberating effect when we’re feeling bottled up with frustration. Saying the F-word, or similar, can have an immediate calming impact on the difficult emotions we might be experiencing,” said Dr. Raffaello Antonino, a counseling psychologist. This shows how we can feel better when someone is being rude and also shows us it helps a lot when we are having overwhelming emotions.

yeah, I can see that. so what's your proposal?

hiryanli: I suggest we let people to cuss, just not too much like 3 times a day. If they do, give them a warning, talk to them to them and ask what is wrong. Then talk it out. After that, problem solved.

Maybe. But just cuz you say sorry doesn't take away the hurt feelings and the hurt hearts. Cussing is like murdering, murdering of the heart. You can never take back those words or stop the hurt feelings. You ruin the relationship with that person forever. 

People only cuss to stand up for themselves. Or stand up for their friends. Those who can't control when to cuss wouldn't follow the rules.

Uh-huh. But you can't deny it hurts people. Even if it is for "a good cause". That's like saying "I robbed  the bank so I could give the money I stole to an orphanage." That doesn't justify what you did. Just cause you were defending a friend by cussing doesn't mean it's right, or, for that matter, good.

Yes. But you shouldn't just ignore it and push the feeling aside because it can activate again in the future. Emotions are a thing that is hard to control.

Which is why I recommend calling a friend. You can also write it down and scream. Punching a pillow works too. Emotions are hard to control. It’s important to take the time to create the thought process of keeping them under control. If you cant, you’d end up swearing at your boss, letting it out whenever 

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FaithfulServant wrote:
hiryanli wrote:
ohyummypizzahut wrote:
hiryanli wrote:
ohyummypizzahut wrote:
hiryanli wrote:
hughienews wrote:
hiryanli wrote:

I understand your point. But sometimes when a person is having a very bad day and another person is being very rude, you just gotta let it out. You don't want to cramp your anger into a tiny ball and let it gather more power until it explodes like a volcano. Cussing can make you feel more calm and relieved in some cases.  You might be thinking "Hey man why did you cuss bro? That is not cool. Ya could have just told me."  Research shows that cussing can help us cope with pain better. "Swearing can have a truly liberating effect when we’re feeling bottled up with frustration. Saying the F-word, or similar, can have an immediate calming impact on the difficult emotions we might be experiencing,” said Dr. Raffaello Antonino, a counseling psychologist. This shows how we can feel better when someone is being rude and also shows us it helps a lot when we are having overwhelming emotions.

yeah, I can see that. so what's your proposal?

hiryanli: I suggest we let people to cuss, just not too much like 3 times a day. If they do, give them a warning, talk to them to them and ask what is wrong. Then talk it out. After that, problem solved.

Maybe. But just cuz you say sorry doesn't take away the hurt feelings and the hurt hearts. Cussing is like murdering, murdering of the heart. You can never take back those words or stop the hurt feelings. You ruin the relationship with that person forever. 

People only cuss to stand up for themselves. Or stand up for their friends. Those who can't control when to cuss wouldn't follow the rules.

Uh-huh. But you can't deny it hurts people. Even if it is for "a good cause". That's like saying "I robbed  the bank so I could give the money I stole to an orphanage." That doesn't justify what you did. Just cause you were defending a friend by cussing doesn't mean it's right, or, for that matter, good.

Yes. But you shouldn't just ignore it and push the feeling aside because it can activate again in the future. Emotions are a thing that is hard to control.

Which is why I recommend calling a friend. You can also write it down and scream. Punching a pillow works too. Emotions are hard to control. It’s important to take the time to create the thought process of keeping them under control. If you cant, you’d end up swearing at your boss, letting it out whenever 

Controlling your emotions at all times is very hard to do. And I would recommend punching pillow than scream.

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well guys, I don't wanna make anyone scared. I'm not Christian. To open up about my home life... my parents swear a lot when they're mad. and it doesn't scare me- it's just their feelings and I believe the deserve to get it out. What scares me more than swearing is screaming. I'd rather them be quiet and calm but cuss than not cuss but scream. Listen though, I wanna take everyone's opinions into account. Nobody should be scared here. But (and I think a lot of people here won't like this) but I have been raised very liberally. My parents were social workers in east Baltimore, and my life mentor is a 40+ year police officer. I have been taught not to fear cussing but treat it as a slightly ugly but real part of life. In talks with my mentor, he tells me of times he's been screamed at and sweared at... he couldn't be scared of that. he needed to remain calm. and do his job. that's where I come from- but we're all different. and I never want someone to be scared here.

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if you're Christian, then yes

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