[Closed] FFA - King Counterchecking #21

Game ID: #0021

Status: Closed

Game type: FFA

Variations: King Counterchecking

King Counterchecking: A player can make a move that puts (but no keeping) their own king in check or moves into another spot which would still be check provided they check the player that could capture the king. If this happens, the two players in this situation have some further choices:

• Either of the two players can get out of check like normal.
• The two players can capture each other’s kings. They must then place a new king on a square they would like to use (or resign — this might be best when a player has no good spot for a king, based on himself or other stuff) — this step comes before any move of a player who wasn’t in the counterchecking situation. However, in this situation, the new king will not be able to be put in check or kept in check to check the attacker in return, not even for the other players who weren’t part of this counterchecking situation.

Scenario 1: (This will illustrate the new rule more clearly)

It looks like Yellow is absolutely pinning the red queen. However, with the new rule, Red can choose 1. Qxi13+. Let’s say Red plays that and Blue plays 1. - Bxj13.

Now Yellow must capture red’s king in return for Red capturing him back, or get out of check in normal fashion. Getting out of his own check is best here, but let’s say we had 1. - - Bxj1 4xj3 2. Qxj14, and Red decided to place the new king on h1 and Yellow decided to resign.

Other rules for Counterchecking: A countercheck can’t be interfered with by another player unless he checks the same player as the original piece. In the case that it happens, the player who had his countercheck interfered gains a tempo to save his king (both players must get out of check in their following moves).

Time: 3 days/move

Players:

Red - @superduolingo005 (REPLACED @Hitsar_Pride)
Blue - @MrXX2018
Yellow - @ChimpReturns
Green - @zisal2029

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WDYM? Should I re-explain something?

Anyway, waiting for 3 more players.

Join. Always wanted to play 2PC with rules almost like these

Question:

If A checks B, B counterchecks A, C saves A from the check (without checking by himself), can A just take B's king and checkmate him?

And what will happen, if all the same, but if C takes B's checking piece and check A himself?

Yes, nice thinking, but a countercheck can’t be interfered in a non-checking way. If B’s check is interfered with C’s check, and it checks A, A must get out of check first. This gives the other player time to maybe rearrange some defenses. Likewise, if A’s piece is Captured by C, and it checks B, B must get out of check first (so, in this cases, no capturing each other’s kings).

You answered only second question

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In this weird example

1 f4+ c7+c N:a8 ~

Is 2.r Q:a7# legal?

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I thought I did answer 1st question. I said “No countercheck can be interfered with without check”, so C can’t save A from the check without making a new check. Also, your question doesn’t seem to have fitting moves and a picture.

Anyway,

Waiting for 2 more player.

I mean in the example after 1.y N:a8 red is not in a check anymore (countercheck situation is broken!). So, can it make any move (and is Q:a7 legal)?

If I did allow this kind of move, I wouldn't have let red take the blue king. However, N:a8 is illegal anyway (do I have to keep repeating this, or what should I do to help you out?).

Another question. To make it simple, let's say 2 players remaining. Can I check my opponent with pinned piece, creating countercheck situation? If yes, can I do it if I'm already under check?

Yes, you might be able to capture an enemy piece with one of your own that’s pinned while checking them back.

Bump. Please join this!

I’ll just join myself to make this start immediately, now that I think about it being too long.

Red (@Hitsar_Pride) to move.

I think this will be re-opened as a result...

Well, I will wait 7 days, then he will be officially forfeit. Let's assume he's on vacation, but I can't pause because he has no proof.

Forfeit. @zisal2029 said this seven days ago, as can be seen next to the quote button.

GAME RE-OPENED

Your turn, @superduolingo005. You are red.

Wow, thanks.

Blue (@MrXX2018) to move.