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I have a question about how the TT works. I am considering Bh4. Lets say you do nothing and play a3. If I then play Bxg3, can you play TTxh4?
After Bh4 the TT is "attacking" through the transparent witch. However, after I take, the TT can no longer "see" the square where the bishop came from. Can it capture on a square that it can't move to? After looking at the threads with TT rules, I don't see this covered.
Mar 12, 2024
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#35
Special abilities in Bulldog can conflict with and confuse each other. Indeed.
There is only a clause that disallows your captured enemy TT to reverse your capture on it; its special ability is only valid every moment it is on the board. When it's captured, it is not.
With that said, the rules, as it's written now (3/12/2024, 11am PST), do not specify that capturing an enemy Witch would prohibits the capture from being reversed when previously her transparency has caused your piece performing the capture to be in your enemy TT's line-of-sight.
As the gamehost, my verdict: reversing the capture of the Witch in this position is allowed; as with any and all future situations of the same.
post updated (1pm, PST): I played out the scenario on the board myself and gave it some further thought. To reverse a capture involving a transparent piece when the transparent piece is no longer there is quite awkward. So, I'm reversing my verdict: in order to be in line with a captured TT unable to reverse itself having been captured, a TT cannot reverse a move involving an enemy allied (corrected, per @Marks1420 tip) transparent piece, if that transparent piece is no longer there at current. Whether it's literally written into the rules or not, I think it's simply intuitive to keep that way.
" in order to be in line with a captured TT unable to reverse itself having been captured, a TT cannot reverse a move involving an enemy transparent piece, if that transparent piece is no longer there at current. "
Don't you mean a friendly transparent piece?
Mar 13, 2024
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Marks1420 wrote:
I have a question about how the TT works. I am considering Bh4. Lets say you do nothing and play a3. If I then play Bxg3, can you play TTxh4?
After Bh4 the TT is "attacking" through the transparent witch. However, after I take, the TT can no longer "see" the square where the bishop came from. Can it capture on a square that it can't move to? After looking at the threads with TT rules, I don't see this covered.
Let's indeed hypothetically say that you play Bh4 and I play a3. Then we must consider this position, and answer the question: can the TT see the Bishop on square h4 yes or no? The answer is yes. That is what gives the TT the postponed capture power, also in the situation described here.
Link to the rules:
https://www.chess.com/clubs/forum/view/the-time-thief-explained-v2
Let's take it one step further for clarity's sake. Are you saying that if white plays Bxe4, black can respond with TTxg2?
Based on the current posted rules, there is no clarification as to whether that would be legal or not. The time thief would be utilizing transparency of a piece that is no longer providing transparency.
I only saw the comment from BattleChessGN18 after posting the move Ne5. I assume that once Marks posts a legal move instead of #18 0-0-0, I can do a different move instead of #20 Ne5.