Should one ever resign? (Ref. to Searching for Bobby Fischer)

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Avatar of Deathreapist

Should one ever resign in a game? Having recently watched: Searching for Bobby Fischer, I was alarmed to note that Josh's Teacher encourages Josh to feel contempt for an opponent, and to hate them; also, that Josh should always WANT to win. This made me feel rather uncomfortable as to whether I should resign or not if I am in a bad position, since in the back of my mind sits the idea that the opponent want to win and that they hate me! Should I resign and not waste their time? (Just like what I did in the attached game?)



Avatar of Pug-In-A-Mug

you can still win! I say no!

Avatar of Mohammad0157

In my opinion in this site we are playing chess just for fun or sometimes to improve over chess ability. not to hate each other. Just for a moment think that all the people of all religion and all languages in all over the world be friend with each other. What a beautiful world we have. so I believe that never we should close our window without resgin.

Have a really happy time in your life.Smile

Avatar of petitou

For me personnaly, even if I lose I would prefer trying to defend myself in the game as an opportunity to play an endgame and learn from it. Secondly there is the joy that you get from playing and winning and I like to give that opportunity to my opponent. And at the level I'm playing my friend might blunder.  

Avatar of Deathreapist

@rsteel105, do you know about torrenting? you can search the movie torrent and then download via utorrent software. This is however illegal in many places, and of course illegal in the general sense. I advise to buy a genuine dvd at the local store- ie. JB hifi  :)

Avatar of jkborders

Buy it or rent it, don't steal it!

Avatar of MahoneyKevin

resigning is a legtimate rule. If you see the end and know your opponent also sees the end, why waste time. Start again and learn from your mistakes.

And, yes, don't steal. It's rude.

Avatar of Torben_Lindstad

You should never resing!
Never has a game been won by resigning.

It's not over til it's over.
The other player could also do mistakes, stalemate etc.

Avatar of MahoneyKevin

At some point, unless your playing someone very inexperienced, that's not going to happen. If there's a chance, do for it. But when I see the finish and have no moves to alter the inevitable, let's start anew. 

Avatar of DavidMMIX

Resignation depends on the time limit and the situation.  There are no general rules.  In blitz you could play on with 9...dxe5.  In turn-basedcorrespondence chess it is up to you.  Do you want the learning experience of finding out how a better player will earn the full point? - if so play on: the lesson is free.  Another test: could you beat a strong player from the position that you resigned?  Let's test it.  Playing White can you beat Crafty End Game Trainer from the position at Move 9 of your game?  Click to open a link.

The EGT will defend as Black.  As White you have to concede 'castling odds' (you can't castle).  First time through I had to concede a draw after 49 moves: we had reached

More generally, Crafty EGT allows you to discover hidden resources in positons.  Enjoy!

Avatar of EtienneDeVignolles

More than once I have resigned and THEN looked at the material and position and thought, "Hang on, it wasn't actually as bad as I thought!"

Also, if you make a blunder, why assume that your opponent won't make a blunder?

I've stopped resigning except in ridiculously lost positions against an opponent I know isn't going to make a mistake!

Avatar of Only1canremain

Don't resign cause you will later think "Wait a minute, I actually had an advantage!" and you go home crying and regretting what you have done.

 So i say NO to resigning but resign if you are actually losing on points and position.Smile

Avatar of opiejames

Never resign is good advise for kids because they then can learn how the opponents mate them.  However, for experience players playing on in a dead lost position is both an insult to your opponent and wears you out for the next game.

Avatar of MahoneyKevin

it's good for kids to play on, but it's also good for them to learn to be gracious in defeat and resign -- tough for a kid; but ONLY when you KNOW you can't win. As an adult I will tend to resign earlier against a 1800 rated player than a 1400 or lower rated player. If an opponents "bad" move is even 5% likely, play on. Resigning is the polite thing to do when it's time to do it. 

Avatar of dragonfly4119

Re. Searching for BF movie. The movie is entertaining but it takes a lot of liberties with the book (the book is more interesting btw), and I wouldn't measure good chess etiquette based on that movie. If I recall after they have blitzed out nearly all the moves in that final game Josh says something preposterous like "You've already lost, you just don't know it." If I was playing in a rated tournament game, I would ask the arbiter to ask my opponent to stop talking to me during the game! Re. the question of resigning. Subjectivity enters into this. Resign when you don't feel like playing anymore. Kids and lower rated players tend to play on in hopeless situations, but then again because of inexperience they likely don't have much of a sense of when to resign, which is fine. One thing I notice on this site is some players (in correspondence games) get angry at their opponent when they feel their opponent should resign. To me that is silly. Yes if I were their opponent I likely would resign in that situation. But if I have an opponent who probably should resign, I don't get angry (not usually anyway). At that point the win for me should be easy, likely with lots of ways to get there too. Just play on. Getting angry won't help. And it is their prerogative to play on if they wish.

Avatar of walterwtenz313

NEVER RESIGN  GAME CATCH THE SAD FACE: happy.pnghappy.pnghappy.pnghappy.pnghappy.pnghappy.pnghappy.pnghappy.pnghappy.pnghappy.pngsad.pnghappy.pnghappy.pnghappy.pnghappy.pnghappy.pnghappy.pnghappy.pnghappy.png: