Some probably basic questions - KIA Novice

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Avatar of NJ_Greg

Hi All,

Hopefully this post will work out... I've not done many of this complexity (with embedded diagrams). 

When I play experienced opponents, I seem to encounter the following lines.  I'd like advice on how to handle them, if anyone cares to weigh in.

Line 1 - 1. Nf3 Nf6 2. g3 d5 3. Bg2 c6 4. O-O Bg4 5. d3 Nbd7 6. Nbd2 e5 7. e4 Bd6 

How do you guys like to handle this (and why, so I understand the idea, not just the moves)? I find the B on g4 very annoying, but am not sure that h3 (seems frequently played, and a sometimes theme in the KIA) is wise here, or how to follow-up.

Line 2 - 1. Nf3 Nf6 2. g3 d5 3. Bg2 c6 4. O-O Nbd7 5. d3 e5 6. Nbd2 Bc5 7. e4 O-O 

Likewise, how do you like to approach this?  I find the B on c5 very annoying. 8 exd5 to open the game seems to have ok results?  Or, (is this still KIA?) playing 6.c4 instead of Nbd2 also seems to work OK (in databases)?

Avatar of St3in

I strongly suggest the reading of a very old forum post  https://www.chess.com/clubs/forum/view/greek-kia-series

 

it has a whole series of options that are frequent and excellent explanations of why  certain moves are good and bad.  I think the first set up you inquired about are in part 2

Avatar of NJ_Greg
St3in wrote:

I strongly suggest the reading of a very old forum post  https://www.chess.com/clubs/forum/view/greek-kia-series

 

it has a whole series of options that are frequent and excellent explanations of why  certain moves are good and bad.  I think the first set up you inquired about are in part 2

Thanks. Will do.  I suspected there might be some old posts, but wasn't sure how to find them.  Much appreciated.

Avatar of Michael-Holm

What I've been trying lately is going for some early Queenside space with a4-a5. If you get your pawn to a5 you can follow up with c3 and b4. I've seen GM Eric Hansen do this. Another common plan is maneuvering a Knight to f5 and potentially sacrificing on h6. I've won a lot of games this way, here are a couple:

 

Avatar of NJ_Greg

@Vicariously-I ; Thanks. I'll take a close look!

Avatar of NJ_Greg

 @st3in - I'm curious if you (or anyone) know(s) what happened to Ambassador_Spock? He seems to have been quite active and made a lot of contributions before his account closed.  

Avatar of MarkGeoffreyMarinay

That annoying g4 Bishop has a remedy. Check out hiw V. Kramnik dismantles V. Lagrave, 2015. Kramnik played Qe1!!

Avatar of NJ_Greg

@darknight81 - Thanks.  I've seen that Qe1 move  in general (even used it), but not quite that early. Kramnik's move is interesting!  Played almost immediately, and then allowing a fast e4.  One of those moves that makes sense once you see it. Thanks! Here's the Kramnik game. It seems a great example of how to combat that g4 B. I will study this.

 p.s. I have a daily game going, where I'm going to play this (...Bg4) from the black side.  Hopefully that will also teach me something.  Also, hopefully my opponent won't see this post! :-)

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Avatar of MarkGeoffreyMarinay

Glad to help. I'm such a big fan of this line.