Spamming ? ? ?

Chess.com has warned me to stop spamming teams with challenges but they refuse to inform on the teams are complaining. So now this gets real tricky seeing that we deal with over 100 teams. I bet it's only a small percentage of teams that are complaining, those that want to see us fail. They complain to chess.com without asking us to stop. These are teams that we have played many times in the past because these are the teams I challenge. This is the message I recieved:

To SA and Admin of Team 54

 

I have already asked Black_Knight that this group stop spamming with team match requests.

I am getting alot of complaints that this team is spamming other groups with team match requests.

One team match request should be enough, if its not accepted, don't send that group anymore.

There is no need to continually send the same group match requests over and over again.  It is annoying alot of other groups and there isn't any need for it.

If they decline the match its because they don't want to play .. accept that :)

The match spamming has to stop.

If the challenges are so annoying then why don't they ask up to stop. They don't because they know I will; instead, they hide behind a vail and complain to chess.com hoping to bring us down. This was my response:

Thanks for the warning. However, I think a team should have to notify me that they do not want any more challenges because most teams accept, decline and cancel base on their appitite for matches, the size of the match, whether it's open or at a specific rating, how days per move, etc. For example, I noticed THE POWER OF CHESS stop accepting our 5 on 5 matches but will accept 10+ matches. Team Romania accepts many of our challenges but sometimes they don't or they just hold on to the challenge until they are ready to play.  If a team notifies me to stop sending challenges, I stop immediately.

 

I think the teams that are complaining are teams we played many times in the past but for whatever reason they stopped without saying anything to me.  Plus there are chess.com members that want to see my team fail, such as CaptainJimTKirk whom created a team "Stop 54" or something like that and I found out because he sent my team admins messages to sabotage my team. 

I've set up over 5000 matches within a year because I seek out teams that want to play and try to avoid those that don't. For these reason's I think it's only fair to have these team's notify me to stop, especailly teams that we have played many times in the past.

We're in the spotlight now and the heat is on. I'll just have to be a little more creative. So what do you guys think? 

BK

I agree i do enjoy the team matches very much even though i am trying to increase my skill set i would like to say Thank you at this time Black Knight...

Well chess.com has agreed to provide me with the list of teams that have been complaining. I have to admit, that they did tell me the person that was complainging but I misunderstood; I thought the member's name was the team's name. Well appearently, this one person is the super admin for many teams and chess.com is going to send me the list. 

BK, all the way. There's no stopping us.

Edited ... black_knight, please do not repost private messages between you and staff.

 You know this is what happens when a individual or group of people become too POWERFUL; they try to stop it. I cant believe there is an actual team that is devoted to stopping team 54! That means we are doing something right. Dont stress it black_knight. Lets just keep doing what we are doing and those that dont want to participate can just be left out in the cold.

This is what i received back today

I'm not saying he can't maybe once or twice a week send a challenge but not everyday or every other day. Also if he would just pick like 4 or 5 groups to challenge at a time would also be better. What it appears he does is send out like 20 or 30 at a time to various groups. The admins like myself that are in a bunch of groups get like 10 -20 a day sometimes from team 54 that's what is so annoying.

Burning pawns

Creature Squad

Black or White

Chess Team Assassins

Chess Connoisseurs

Vote Chess Assassins

Playboy Chess Warriors

This seems like an easy fix: don't send as many invites to those groups.  Of course, all the confusion could be avoided if admins who were "annoyed" by getting so many requests just informed black_knight to cut it down to X number in the first place, but . . .

I have a better fix... those teams will never be challenged again. That's the beauty of playing many teams, you don't have to be dependent on particular teams. The only teams losing out are the teams on that list.

This is my conversation with atudor and notice the list he gave me includes more teams

Thanks, I will stop sending those team challenges.
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Original Message by atudor on 1/6/2011 @ 5:25pm:

 

Burning pawns

Creature Squad

Black or White

Chess Team Assassins

Chess Connoisseurs

Vote Chess Assassins

Playboy Chess Warriors

Queens Guard

TheBlindTigers

The groups above I guess are the worse. I can't really remember all the groups that get invites in to tell you the truth. I just know I get a lot.

Thanks > Alan

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Original Message by Black__Knight on 1/6/2011 @ 5:16pm:

OK, I willing to work with you. Could you send me the list so that we could work out a schedule?

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Original Message by atudor on 1/6/2011 @ 5:06pm:

Its not that we don't want a challenge maybe once a week but just not like every other day. Also some admins like myself are admins in a lot of groups. Sometimes I get like 10 or more a day from team 54. If you wouldn't send out so many on the same day it would not be so bad. Its just sometimes we get bombarted with team 54 invites in a bunch of differant groups. Man it must ware you out sending out so many invites. I sent Kohai a list of the groups that have been the worst. I'm admin in 35 groups so you can see if you send out a bunch at a time that I end up with a lot of them. Actully we play team match with team 54 we have matches going right now so its not like we don't like your team just slow down I guess would be the answer. Thanks > Alan

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Original Message by Black__Knight on 1/6/2011 @ 4:57pm:

I apologize for annoying your teams with challenges. The last thing I want is waste my time sending challenges to teams that don't what them. I would appreciate if you could provide me with a list of teams for me to stop challanging. BK

 

The problem is atudor is he is an admin on too many teams. TheBlindTigers accepts our challenges all the time and he's not even the super admin on this team. But that's OK because TheBlindTigers will also be left in the cold, on behalf of atudor.

Now it's time to get our Matches in Progress back up to 2500.  If we can keep at 2500, we will be in first place the end of this year. Like our motto states:

54 never gives up, never backs down, and are taking on all comers. If you're not with us, you're against us.

atudor is against us. 

malachi 76 wrote: ..." Lets just keep doing what we are doing and those that dont want to participate can just be left out in the cold"

I'm sure all 54 members are here for you and for the team. If they dont wanna play 54, well, they are going to loose less. Let them be and don't waste your valuable time with minor things.

You don't look a gift horse in the mouth

They need us more than we need them, there's no team that gives away more points than 54. It's not that they don't want to play us, they're just jealous. So here we are and where are they, left out in the cold.

I, personally, find it amusing that teams would call themselves "Warriors", or "Assassins" and yet "get annoyed" by challenges?  Alas, to each his own I guess.

As far as I'm concerned, I enjoy each & every challenge.  No one plays the exact same so I welcome each & every challenge that comes my way.

As far as I'm concerned...keep 'em coming BK.  I enjoy playing with and for this group more than any other I'm with due to the fact that the waters are constantly being churned. 

I LOVE the fight in this team & in what I see from BK!