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Spochman

Here you can give your games for general discussion and analysis of our group members together with me.

I'll break the ice by submitting a recent game of mine. The theme- don't get into panic under pressure:



Spochman

Ryan, although opening principles are a great beginning, however, you must judge a position as it is, regardless of history of previous moves, of course this said on top off the consistency usually required. However, trying to be consistent, you still must look at the position and have an objective decision about what's the best move and plan according to the evaluation.

This being said, I agree with you about most of his pawn moves, it's overstretching and takes time, however it creates a huge pressure and tons of space.

About the knight jumps- though they do have logic behind them, trying to improve piece position, would you play something else instead some of them having evaluated a given position before a jump was made with a knight? was there a better plan? base your opinion.

Spochman

Are you sure? ;-)

Spochman

That's a very general thing to say. I don't mean the forced moves.

What do you think about the move that was played 7..Nb6 ? Is it good? or maybe there was a better option, not to move this knight again? Or was it necessary and best? of course, base your opinion.

Find other candidate moves, and analyze 7..c6

Spochman

Good, that's good Ryan! keep on with the good job, you are making your coach proud Smile

Spochman

now, what do you think of 13..Qc8? are there better options for black? try evaluating the position after 13.e5.

TheFireFox1337

hm...

Spochman

Champ, I don't agree with your final statement about the final position, because from what I can see white has the bishop pair in an open position, and almost every move he can make is a threat: Nb5, Rae2 are just 2 examples. You must support your claims like this one either with positional evaluation, deeper than one line of impresson from a glance, or with concrete variations.

Besides that, most moves played by white in the given variation were very bad. try finding better moves for white, again, full evaluation after every move is key.

Disgruntled_Sheep

Well I had my first lesson with Phillip tonight. Very enjoyable and learnt heaps! I then went and did some other analysing and then played 2 10min games on live chess. Here they are:



 


I think that my brain was still working for the first one, and was trying to work in the second one, but I'd really appreciate some extra thoughts on both games. I HATE d4. Wink

Spochman

about the first game:

Nxe4 is actually the best move for black, he just didn't follow it up correctly.

your best approach was first to take Bxf7:

these two variations show that whites Qd2 wasn't a good response to Nf6, as white is equal at most after it.

Bill_C

Follow this link to posting 1428 for a good match I just played.

http://www.chess.com/forum/view/game-analysis/we-need-more-amateurs-to-post-their-annotated-games?lc=1#last_comment

Spochman

If you would like me and our guys to participate in it's analysis I suggest you post it here in a new forum thread.

Bill_C

Here is a game that I played yesterday in correspondence at 3 days per move in which I won agaonst a temmate 300 points higher. We played a great game and though I knew notheing about the opening, I found a good way to come out of it. Afterwards, i found out the f4 advance was a mistake as gxf4 holds the position for White. I played Black here.

I had some analysis done on the site and found that I had 8 inaaccuraies and 2 mistakes in the game with no blunders. I also found out this was some line of the Neo-Grunfeld Defense-Original Variation. Can you guys help me to see if there were some other replies to the position besides the alternatives I gave? i will attempt to find some replies as well for here too.

Spochman

Can you please explain to me, what relation does your move f4 (??) have to the fact that he lost by blunder allowing Bd3 x-ray fork?

White has a solid position after both gxf or exf equally, I don't know why would you mark it with a question mark after exf.

If you read my article you know how to evaluate a certain position, did you base your move f4 on a full positional evaluation? I don't think so.

I just want to add that analysing with a computer might be a good idea if you have trouble finding tactics, but trying to find a plan- please use the tools which I taught you, and believe me, your chess will not benefit much from analysing with a computer, especially a computer that evaluated exf4 as a question mark and said gxf4 is better (it is not). I just had to mention this, because it kinda makes me upset when I see a player who has been given legitimate easy and constructive tools, but still chooses "the easy way", meaning computer analysis.

Bill_C

On the f4 move, the move made seemed premature for the opening as i overlooked gxf4 when White will not have a static weakness to his pawn chain in which it can be exploited with an attack on the d4 pawn. By capturing exf4, White in effect removed a guard from the center of the board, which would later allow for a capture of a pawn, the exchange and a pin on his Queen at c3. gxf4 on the other hand, requires me in the closed position to redirect my forces to the King side to attack the now weakened dark squares at f2, h2 and g3. This actually gives White a little better advantage in terms of that my forces are Queen side oriented. The question mark to the f4 move was my own and not the computers in the post mortem prior to any analysis set up.

My teammates assessment prior to the ending was that if the board stayed closed, the advantage of the exchange was to be smaller than if perhaps the board would have been opened up by exchanges.

There were several moves I made that i missed simply from being unfamiliar with the positional requirements of the Neo-Grunfeld Defense. However, once White played Nf1? trying to occupy the e3 square with his piece, I felt as though I had the advantage and simply played what I thought were the intuitive moves to the position. In all honesty, I believe that White had the inferior position the moment he played e3 and not e4 in the opening.

As a final note, I almost never use computer analysis to rely on finding my best moves post mortem unless I am curious as to a position I have never encountered. Prior to f4, I likely had a stronger game consolidating with the Nhf6 move but as I said, when I evaluated f4, I failed to consider the possibility of gxf4 being available. Aside from that, once I discovered the weakness following the exchange, I capitalized on it.

For better or worse, I still stand by my decision to mark exf4 as at least inferior to gxf4 and that my advance in the first place was at best rushed if not premature.

Bill_C

20. ... f4 yields the following line of continuation here.

20... f4 21. gxf4 Ba6 22. Bf1 Bxf1 23. Nxf1 Rab8 24. Ng3

This gives White to me a moderate advantage.

Had I played 20. ... Nf6, my possible line would have played:

20... Nf6 21. Ba5 Qf7 22. f3 Bh6 23. f4 Ba6 24. Bc3

With the possibility of 24... Ng4 25. Nf1 Bxf1 26. Bxf1 (26. Rxf1?? Ne3!) Ne3, winning the e pawn.

On 21. exf4, I should have played:

21... Nexf4 22. gxf4 Nxf4 23. Nf1 Ba6 24. Ne3 Ne2+ 25. Kh1 Bd3

And likely I am now headed to a draw with exact play even with the x-ray attack on the Queen.

Therefore, it seems that White does have better chances on gxf4 for position than exf4 here as after Bxb1, neither of us can really claim an advantage here.

Also, neither of these lines was suggested by the analysis engine and those lines showed gxf4 at + 0.91 and exf4 at + 0.2


DomcaxD

Hi, I would need to know, what is plan for white and black in this position, or in positions with similar pawn structure.

Spochman

have you tried to analyze the position for both sides, as we do here in the "position of the day" threads? if the goal is to know the answer- an engine can help. However if you want to know how to reach it yourself, try analysing the position- opponents threats, positional rvaluation, tactical evaluation, using that order.

Try and share your findings for me and the group to comment.

DomcaxD

Ok.

Tactic:

No immediate tactical threats for any side.

Strategy:

Material is equal. White and black have castled on the kingside. White has a pawn centre, so black aim is to attack the centre. Next imbalances I see is semi-open file c - for white and semi-open file d - for black. My only idea is to play Rd1 or Re1 for white, but I don´t see any targets. Black can play Nd7 and then c5 break, which disturbs the centre.

sfriedman71

Here is a game for discussion or analysis. I won this one thanks to disciplined threat analysis and positional evaluation. But, missed a number of opportunties for lack of tactical evaluation.


I'm never sure whether to post games in comments, on the discussion of the game page or in a blog. So, in this case I've done two out of three. Here is my blog entry:

http://www.chess.com/blog/sfriedman71/third-times-a-charm