maybe 40 days because my games usually last around 60 moves and I only have time to move every 12 hours. Some games may last like 80 moves.
Then, you will have to play in matches with current daily time controls. You should not play with this time control in case it gets accepted.
Many users seem to agree that it would be nice having an alternative time control that prevents extreme delay in daily chess. See also:
https://www.chess.com/clubs/forum/view/suggested-feature-alternative-time-control-daily
Still, agreeing on the details of the alternative is not that easy. For me, "all moves within 30 days" is not an option that I can support. I'm really a "daily" player: In most of my games, I make one move per day in the evening. This becomes infeasible if you have a long game and a fixed amount of time available.
My preference (as described in https://www.chess.com/clubs/forum/view/suggested-feature-alternative-time-control-daily) is clearly a time control with some (either Fischer or Bronstein) increment per move.
I am also daily player.
In fast games games I blunder so much that I lose clearly winning endgames, I give my pieces for free. I miss mate in ones.
But an increment with a day? That sounds very dubious. Someone can make their first 10 or more moves from the book, which means they got 10 more extra days which equals 40 already. After that, in some positions in the middle game the next move is so obvious that it can take a minute at most which will result in that side having one more day incremented after thinking about a minute or 2.
But of course, both suggestions are still suggestable and useable.
Many users seem to agree that it would be nice having an alternative time control that prevents extreme delay in daily chess. See also:
https://www.chess.com/clubs/forum/view/suggested-feature-alternative-time-control-daily
Still, agreeing on the details of the alternative is not that easy. For me, "all moves within 30 days" is not an option that I can support. I'm really a "daily" player: In most of my games, I make one move per day in the evening. This becomes infeasible if you have a long game and a fixed amount of time available.
My preference (as described in https://www.chess.com/clubs/forum/view/suggested-feature-alternative-time-control-daily) is clearly a time control with some (either Fischer or Bronstein) increment per move.
I am also daily player.
In fast games games I blunder so much that I lose clearly winning endgames, I give my pieces for free. I miss mate in ones.
But an increment with a day? That sounds very dubious. Someone can make their first 10 or more moves from the book, which means they got 10 more extra days which equals 40 already. After that, in some positions in the middle game the next move is so obvious that it can take a minute at most which will result in that side having one more day incremented after thinking about a minute or 2.
But of course, both suggestions are still suggestable and useable.
but actually Bronstein increment type increment can be used.
If the game reaches 60 moves, then an additional 10 days is added.
But do we really need it? Imagine a person that can not end 10 games in 30 days. Then what can we say about him? Ok, it is not up to us to judge his skills but let him play current type of daily chess instead of using overall 30 day time control. Playing 60 moves in 30 days is not something heavy, it is not something you will lack energy due to, it is not something you will get tired due to.
Bronstein (delay) time control works differently (as I sketched in https://www.chess.com/clubs/forum/view/suggested-feature-alternative-time-control-daily). You get a certain amount of time per move (say, one day) plus a buffer (say, 30 days). If you make your move in one day, you buffer remains intact (but is not increased like with Fischer increment). If you need more than a day to make your move, your buffer shrinks.
This (one day Bronstein + 30 days buffer) is still my preferred time control option for daily chess.
Bronstein (delay) time control works differently (as I sketched in https://www.chess.com/clubs/forum/view/suggested-feature-alternative-time-control-daily). You get a certain amount of time per move (say, one day) plus a buffer (say, 30 days). If you make your move in one day, you buffer remains intact (but is not increased like with Fischer increment). If you need more than a day to make your move, your buffer shrinks.
This (one day Bronstein + 30 days buffer) is still my preferred time control option for daily chess.
someone playing their moves at the end of his day and then when the position is lost he has 1 month + possible vacation time to extend the time of the game? Seems even scarier.... but of course not everyone has long time of vacation.
A scary scenario like that can arise from my proposal as well: Majority of the game gets played in the first 2 hours of the first day, then when the position is lost someone keeps his opponent waiting for 29 days + 22 hours + possible vacation time.
Both proposals (yours and mine) still seem to be better than the current daily time control but I would say mine is less scarier than yours (this is not a battle between you and me, it is just a discussion). Why?
In your proposal you and me can play. Each of us spends 12 or 18 hours for our moves, then we arrived 40 moves (80 plies) which would have taken about 40 days without our buffer time shrinking. Then I realize my position is lost and decide to say you "happy waitings!" You wait for a month, the game lasted about 70 days. In my proposal, all is over in a month (both examples assume I did not use my vacation time).
Keep in mind that Chess.com World league's rounds start at the end of each month which means many matches would be decided before the next round starts or in the first days of the next round. That is why I think my proposal is more preferable. At least for Chess.com World and continental leagues.
I appreciate the idea here; we have actually considered this exact idea before as well as lots of other time controls ideas for daily chess.
so, who should see this proposal so that it can get appreciated? Whom should we call to this thread?
Just get rid of "vacation", already!
It is but another example of worse than useless features on chess.com that most everyone hates, but some trolls love. It also diverts chess.com IT from what should be its main task, solving the terrible connection to this site, which Magnus Carlsen compared to "walking in mud".
Where do I sign the online petition to abolish chess.com's "vacation" feature?
hmm, good idea: petition to abolish chess.com's ...
What about launching a campaign on the two topics of this thread on change.org? We shall open a petition there and spread this petition here as much as we can, in all clubs we belong to, in all matchs' comments section we play on and etc
but is getting rid of vacation really necessary? As far as I know, you can turn off vacation option when you set up a challenge. Anyway, what about launching a campaign petition through change.org?
30 Days is maybe a bit fast for me, cause of the work, life, number of parallele games, work i have to do on some difficult moves, etc. but i agree that a better way be found to finish games before 2 ou 3 months.
30 Days is maybe a bit fast for me, cause of the work, life, number of parallele games, work i have to do on some difficult moves, etc. but i agree that a better way be found to finish games before 2 ou 3 months.
That is also possible. May be45 days or 60 days.
we are discussing this proposal in World League forums, attend if you want: https://www.chess.com/clubs/forum/view/proposal-new-type-of-daily-chess-with-only-a-specific-time-for-the-whole-game-shall-be-used?page=1
@Ruhubelent actually your proposal will cut most of matches for 60 days at most, cause having 30 days for each player gives in total 60 days, so far most of official matches ends up in 3 months, so your suggestion cuts it in 40% percent in average
@Ruhubelent actually your proposal will cut most of matches for 60 days at most, cause having 30 days for each player gives in total 60 days, so far most of official matches ends up in 3 months, so your suggestion cuts it in 40% percent in average
Now, in order game to end in 60 days the game should go on like this:
Player A does not move till the end of his 30 days and moves at the last second, then player B does the same and the game takes 60 days. It can be like the game starts like a blitz, both sides do their moves in 5 minutes and knowing that Player A is about to lose, he does not move for 30 days and Player B does the same for some unknown reason, only in this way a game may last 60 days in my proposal.
Now, when evaluating my proposal you are being too theoretic and then make comparison with it through practical plight of the current system. You choose the longest theoretical time for my proposal and then you choose the practical time for current one. How fair is this comparison? If we are going to compare theoretical values, then with current system the match may last for years. The match that is going on for more than a year is an example: World League 2017 Team Russia - Team canada match was started in January of 2017 and still going on.
I'm an SA for Team Canada. I LIKE this idea. May I suggest, in the interest of players who LEGITEMATELY need it, a limit of 1 or 2 (probably better) time outs per game? We have some players who's opponents just set their Vacation time to a few minutes before each time out and then Vacation time sets in for days. It's really irritating. Situations and circumstances happen that take us away from Chess...we all get that. I like the idea. People DON'T WANT games to drag on for months needlessly. I know sevral of out Team Canada players who'd wholeheartedly welcome this idea. At the same time, 1 or 2 Vac. Times isn't unreasonable if players will be using it in the way it was originally intended. Thanks for the chance to "voice our opinion! Hope this is helpful input. GhostofMarshall. Admin. Team Canada.
Many users seem to agree that it would be nice having an alternative time control that prevents extreme delay in daily chess. See also:
https://www.chess.com/clubs/forum/view/suggested-feature-alternative-time-control-daily
Still, agreeing on the details of the alternative is not that easy. For me, "all moves within 30 days" is not an option that I can support. I'm really a "daily" player: In most of my games, I make one move per day in the evening. This becomes infeasible if you have a long game and a fixed amount of time available.
My preference (as described in https://www.chess.com/clubs/forum/view/suggested-feature-alternative-time-control-daily) is clearly a time control with some (either Fischer or Bronstein) increment per move.