The Age of the Earth

Sort:
Avatar of PetecantbeatmeSLFL
stephen_33 wrote:

Claiming that "I am not against science, just against evolution...", is like saying that you're not against astronomy, just against the theory that the Earth & other planets orbit the Sun!

Do you fully understand what evolutionary theory sets out to explain? It concerns only how the diversity of living forms came to be, not how our planet came into existence or even how life on Earth began - is that clear?

Evolution is not science because you say it is. You need to have proof beyond reasonable doubt and evolution does not

Avatar of varelse1
trump2020maga1 wrote:
stephen_33 wrote:

Claiming that "I am not against science, just against evolution...", is like saying that you're not against astronomy, just against the theory that the Earth & other planets orbit the Sun!

Do you fully understand what evolutionary theory sets out to explain? It concerns only how the diversity of living forms came to be, not how our planet came into existence or even how life on Earth began - is that clear?

Evolution is not science because you say it is. You need to have proof beyond reasonable doubt and evolution does not

Not at all.

Science deals with theories every day.

Right now Evolution is the best theory, which matches the available evidence.

Perhaps in the future, new evidence will turn up, which will force Science to abandon Evolution, and come up with a new theory. Nobody can say what the future holds.

But what is known, is that that contradictory evidence is not here yet, now.

Avatar of stephen_33
trump2020maga1 wrote:
stephen_33 wrote:

Claiming that "I am not against science, just against evolution...", is like saying that you're not against astronomy, just against the theory that the Earth & other planets orbit the Sun!

Do you fully understand what evolutionary theory sets out to explain? It concerns only how the diversity of living forms came to be, not how our planet came into existence or even how life on Earth began - is that clear?

Evolution is not science because you say it is. You need to have proof beyond reasonable doubt and evolution does not

Professional scientists are often careful to remind us that in science nothing is ever proven beyond all doubt. I've never even heard them use the term 'proven beyond reasonable doubt'.

I like to think of all knowledge as being situated on a scale (or spectrum) of probability, from zero (utterly false) to 100% (proven beyond all doubt). Modern Evolutionary Theory would probably sit somewhere above 95% I think. Biologists say that without evolution nothing in Biology makes any sense & you'd think they'd know?

The fact is that it explains so well what we see in the fossil record, as well as related features in various living species (not to mention DNA analysis), that even if it were to be supplanted, it would have to be by a theory that was very similar.

Avatar of varelse1
Benjibass wrote:

I have a few questions.. Like always.... How do they know radiometric dating works..... And fossils can form quickly and how can they even tell the difference.

And the best part is, they jut so happen to form in the perfect order in the geologic ladder, to make Evolution appear true.

Coincidence, huh?

Avatar of Benjibass

How do you tell the age in the geologic ladder. Honestly. What if there were some large events in the past that changed the process of aging rocks ..... Also Evolution is the worst theory i have ever heard of, i am not against the fact that the earth orbits the sun, that is a living proven fact. Evolution is more like believing that the sun orbits the earth......

Avatar of varelse1
Benjibass wrote:

How do you tell the age in the geologic ladder. Honestly. What if there were some large events in the past that changed the process of aging rocks ..... Also Evolution is the worst theory i have ever heard of, i am not against the fact that the earth orbits the sun, that is a living proven fact. Evolution is more like believing that the sun orbits the earth...…

There are dozes of ways to tell the age, and they all agree.

But read what wrote again. I did not refer to the age, did I?

I referred to the order.

All the earliest species (according to Darwin) found on the bottom. 

More complex species, found above.

Avatar of PetecantbeatmeSLFL
varelse1 wrote:
trump2020maga1 wrote:
stephen_33 wrote:

Claiming that "I am not against science, just against evolution...", is like saying that you're not against astronomy, just against the theory that the Earth & other planets orbit the Sun!

Do you fully understand what evolutionary theory sets out to explain? It concerns only how the diversity of living forms came to be, not how our planet came into existence or even how life on Earth began - is that clear?

Evolution is not science because you say it is. You need to have proof beyond reasonable doubt and evolution does not

Not at all.

Science deals with theories every day.

Right now Evolution is the best theory, which matches the available evidence.

Perhaps in the future, new evidence will turn up, which will force Science to abandon Evolution, and come up with a new theory. Nobody can say what the future holds.

But what is known, is that that contradictory evidence is not here yet, now.

 Science It does not contradict creationism eather

Avatar of varelse1
trump2020maga1 wrote:
 

 Science It does not contradict creationism eather

Of course not.

But there are, however, over 30 different entire branches of science, which have successfully  disproved a Young Earth.

Avatar of PetecantbeatmeSLFL
varelse1 wrote:
trump2020maga1 wrote:
 

 Science It does not contradict creationism eather

Of course not.

But there are, however, over 30 different entire branches of science, which have successfully  disproved a Young Earth.

Doubt it. And there is plenty of proof for a young earth 

Avatar of stephen_33

Do religions, or at least the dogma they peddle, become pernicious when their followers obstinately refuse to accept actuality? trump2020maga1 is starting to remind me of Noodles & the long argument many of us had around his belief in a flat earth - he still insists that this is so & that NASA & every other agency involved are lying to the public.

It's reassuring at least that the major religions formerly accept the scientifically established age of the Earth & modern evolutionary theory. Important to remember that Creationism is little more than a marginalised cult within Christianity!

Avatar of PetecantbeatmeSLFL

So far many of you evolutionists in this club have admitted that evolution is not proven and that you can't disprove creationism so stop pretending your on team science and I'm on team religion. If you can't prove it then it's not science

Avatar of PetecantbeatmeSLFL

First of all you can't do evolution gradually because have of what the animal is trying to evolve would be a hindrance and he won't be the fittest

Avatar of PetecantbeatmeSLFL

I meant *half* not have

Avatar of PetecantbeatmeSLFL

And if you want to do it fast with mutation that won't work eather. Mutations rescramble DNA not make new dna. So a cow will never turn into a fish. Also a lot of things are too complicated to have come from a mutation.   It's not like some animal without eyes could get a mutation and get a eye because it's way too complicated. Only if we had an eye already could he get a new one

Avatar of stephen_33

It's a complete waste of time trying to explain a process that spans geological time with anyone who refuses to accept that the Earth is more than 6000 years old.

What's the maximum age of the Earth that you can accept? This matters because otherwise evolution will make no sense to you at all & that's why I started this topic.

Avatar of PetecantbeatmeSLFL

10,000

Avatar of stephen_33

So you want to remain in a state of ignorance & that's your right.

Avatar of PetecantbeatmeSLFL

That's the youngest you will except?

Avatar of PetecantbeatmeSLFL

Oops, I mean whats, not"that"

Avatar of varelse1
trump2020maga1 wrote:
varelse1 wrote:
trump2020maga1 wrote:
 

 Science It does not contradict creationism eather

Of course not.

But there are, however, over 30 different entire branches of science, which have successfully  disproved a Young Earth.

Doubt it. And there is plenty of proof for a young earth 

Then we have uncovered a gaping hole, in your education.