Theistic Evolution -- Should Christians consider Evolutionary Creationism?

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TheJamesOfAllJameses

1 million years ago?

Destroyer942

Yes exactly 1 million.

TheJamesOfAllJameses

Only God existed.

TheJamesOfAllJameses

And the angels.

TheJamesOfAllJameses

But what if the stars and things aren't really all that far away?

Destroyer942

So space, time, matter, and energy did not exist?

TheJamesOfAllJameses

Time exists only to us. It doesn't exist for God.

Elroch

Things would be dull without time.

How free is your will if you claim that the same God who created talking snakes saw your entire existence at the same time (since to him there is only one time)?

Destroyer942

Ok perfect, so did the Milkyway galaxy exist, did stars exist, did matter exist, did energy exist. The time question isn't as important, what is important is if you think our universe existed or if 1million years ago was before "the beginning of time"

Destroyer942
Elroch wrote:

Things would be dull without time.

How free is your will if you claim that the same God who created talking snakes saw your entire existence at the same time (since to him there is only one time)?

What he means is that God is eternal, unrestricted by time as it occurs here in our universe. As a Christian I would have to agree with that.

TheJamesOfAllJameses
Destroyer942 wrote:

Ok perfect, so did the Milkyway galaxy exist, did stars exist, did matter exist, did energy exist. The time question isn't as important, what is important is if you think our universe existed or if 1million years ago was before "the beginning of time"

God and the angels existed, the angels were created some time before the earth. So, one million years ago only God existed. Because He had yet to create the earth.

Destroyer942

Can you say the same about 10,000 years ago?

TheJamesOfAllJameses

10,000 years ago God probably already created the angels, but had yet to create the earth. 

Elroch

I can understand why the hypothetical being would have created some pets. It must have been mind-bogglingly boring.

Elroch
JayHunterBrickwood wrote:
Destroyer942 wrote:

Ok perfect, so did the Milkyway galaxy exist, did stars exist, did matter exist, did energy exist. The time question isn't as important, what is important is if you think our universe existed or if 1million years ago was before "the beginning of time"

God and the angels existed, the angels were created some time before the earth. So, one million years ago only God existed. Because He had yet to create the earth.

This bit makes no sense, as if God is outside time, in a hypothetical time when there was only God, time would be entirely irrelevant.

To be frank, this whole discussion is as nonsensical as counting angels on pin heads.

TheJamesOfAllJameses

We humans can't comprehe nd what was before God created the world.

Destroyer942
JayHunterBrickwood wrote:

10,000 years ago God probably already created the angels, but had yet to create the earth. 

Did matter, energy, space, galaxies, or stars exist 10,000 years ago?

TheJamesOfAllJameses

No. Around 6000-7000 years ago God created everything. He had probably already created the angels, but nothing else.

Elroch

He put huge effort into creating three mile thick stacks of sedimentary layers with cross-checked radiometric dates in sequential order from zero to over half a billion years to confuse intelligent people. Of course people who haven't a clue aren't subject to such confusion.

Elroch
JayHunterBrickwood wrote:

We humans can't comprehe nd what was before God created the world.

I can say with absolute certainty that you can't comprehend a great deal of what is in the world today.