this an endgame but what?...

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Avatar of cryandtryuntiltheysaybye

this is the start of our endgame at move 20 but...

it says in the game review that it is only up to the middlegame but that surely is an endgame because there are no more queens on the board, and at the last move of the game, there were only rooks and pawns left, you can also check the game in my game history but is this a bug or am i just what??

Avatar of cryandtryuntiltheysaybye

it says it is a lack of relevant moves

Avatar of cryandtryuntiltheysaybye

it is either a bug or a skill issue by me

Avatar of cryandtryuntiltheysaybye

but i am very sure that that position is a clear endgame with queens off, and yes, there could be a middlegame without queens on the board but if both kings are castled, and there are a few pieces left and the queens have been traded off, it should be an endgame is it?

Avatar of cryandtryuntiltheysaybye

i mean... who would say that is the middlegame

Avatar of Cornfed

Queens are not what determine if you have an endgame.

Avatar of Byakurai_987

It seems to me that it's still the middlegame. More than 11 points of pieces (excluding pawns) are on the board.

Avatar of cryandtryuntiltheysaybye

If both kings have castled, it is the middlegame but if the queens get traded off then it is going to be an endgame and also there are only 2 minor and major pieces for both colors.

Avatar of cryandtryuntiltheysaybye

There are middlegames without queens but that just means that both kings haven't castled yet

Avatar of Cornfed

@cryandtryuntiltheysaybye Sorry, your last two comments are flat out wrong. Just use chatGPT or something if you don't believe us.