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where does it say how much rating you gain or lose in a USCF cross table

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what do you mean in a USCF crosstable it shows all the people in order of their results and shows how much they gain/lose

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Were does it show how much they gain/ lose?

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Here is one of the crosstables. Just a random event.

It will show how much they will gain/lose

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I mean like how much you gain/lose for each game that you played in the tournament.

Avatar of A_slithering_ape

Wait what about under 1600?

 

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There isn't a short answer. I would recommend reading this. http://www.glicko.net/ratings/rating.system.pdf

Avatar of A_slithering_ape

Im so confused so is my ucsf rating going to change?

 

Avatar of jerrylmacdonald

Ok here goes...  All rated games you play on Chess.com affect your chess.com rating.  Some rated games are sanctioned by the uscf and will affect your uscf rating also.  Now uscf tracks multiple ratings for you. A set of over the board ratings and a set of online ratings. 

Because not all chess.com games are uscf rated, your chess.com rating can be different than your uscf rating.

 

Also since uscf tracks online and otb ratings separately, you can have different uscf blitz ratings for example. 

 

Now to make it even more confusingn Uscf and chess.com do not agree on time controls.  For example 10|0 is rapid on chess.com but blitz for uscf.

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The USCF crosstables only show the rating you had entering the tournament and exiting the tournament. They do not show the change per game. Also, there are bonus points that may be added due to performances well beyond expectation in an entire event thus individual games don't effect that directly.

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I realize this is an old thread, but it's literally the only result when I search for "cross table." Can anyone point me to a FAQ or HowTo on reading cross tables? In fact, quite a lot of the Member Services Area at uschess.org is starkly unhelpful without knowing how to read it. There's a lot of information there but I don't know how to use it yet -- and I'd like to! Thanks. 

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TimmyCorkery wrote:

I realize this is an old thread, but it's literally the only result when I search for "cross table." Can anyone point me to a FAQ or HowTo on reading cross tables? In fact, quite a lot of the Member Services Area at uschess.org is starkly unhelpful without knowing how to read it. There's a lot of information there but I don't know how to use it yet -- and I'd like to! Thanks. 

 

It's fairly straightforward. Each player has a order number and each round for the player will show who they were paired against, what the outcome was (Win - W, Loss - L, Draw - D, Full point Bye - B, Half point bye - H, Forfeit win - X, Forfeit loss - F, Unavailable - U) , and possibly the color played.

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Martin_Stahl wrote:

It's fairly straightforward. Each player has a order number and each round for the player will show who they were paired against, what the outcome was (Win - W, Loss - L, Draw - D, Full point Bye - B, Half point bye - H, Forfeit win - X, Forfeit loss - F, Unavailable - U) , and possibly the color played.

Thanks, that's a start but there's a LOT more that I'd like to understand. K factor? Someone having a pre-tournament rating of 906P24? Rating system R? Tournament type S? I've read the FAQ top to bottom and have found a few answers, but quite a lot of it is still completely opaque. Is there no legend available? No how-to-read primer? Thanks.

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K factor is a scaling mechanic for the rating and is something that you don't really need to worry about, unless you want to get deep into the rating algorithm.

 

For a rating, the P means the rating is still provisional, in that particular case, it's based on 24 games. That is lost once the 26th game gets rated in that rating pool and the rating is established. Sometimes a rating will get initialized to another pool's rating, based on a certain number of games, so that # may not always match the total played provisionally, but will still become established, once it reaches 26.

 

R is a Round Robin tournament. S is a Swiss.