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Games in VW at #2064

VU ID: 8

1|15D

12+, 7th rank, =EHJOTZ, KotH(c5 l10), Regicide, Stalemate Win, Torpedo.

Alt version in VW comments at #2064

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This version is no good, please use the alt version.

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Status: Declined

Great submission! However, there're endless ways that yellow and red are able to access the clocking machine (and influence it). For examples:
in the first version, grasshopper was able to access the shuffling machine.
for the second, grasshopper was able to access the clocking machine.
for third, camel-riders from both sides are able to mate the clocking bots.

Also, take out these problems, the variant isn't very balanced due to red is always the first to access hill after green is mated. If with more editions, the game loss its original concept, problems like genericity and shuffling may exist, especially when there're early promotion+GoP.

Few creating suggestions for this:
Try adding uniqueness by adding concept-changing gamerules, and (highly likely) remove the gimmick. If you want keep the board structure like this, it would be good to completely recreate this variant (right now it doesn't seem very promising).

At last, if you wish submit a variant, check all the issues that may exist, especially when it may relate to gimmick; Asking more creators to test your variants is also a great way to prevent these mistakes.

Good Luck!

Good luck!

I think i played that once

Good Luck!

you did play it with me oliver

thanks guys!

btw, that means you can vote on it!

becuse i played it?

yes

why is there dead pieces tho?

https://www.chess.com/variants/custom/game/96415024/64/1

-1 (choco), -1 (yx)

Problems: shuffling, yellow has an advantage because it is easier for them to mate yellow, royal getting captured by a bot results in a draw

*because it is easier for them to mate blue

use the alt position because it is not a forced draw

We used the alt position, nevertheless players can still access the clock on the otherside; it's much easier for yellow to mate the bot and earn points, too.

I don’t understand, did you post the game?

Excuse me, didn't choco post the game directly above?

differnt position

www.chess.com/variants/custom/game/96614987

Shuffling still exists in this version and and players can still get captured by green rook

Yellow has a decisive advantage by using L mate the clock

How is shuffling worse here than in listed large board variants like, say, Thermopylae?

Wdym, “Mate the clock“

How is shuffling worse here than in listed large board variants like, say, Thermopylae?

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it is nonexistent in thermopylae. If red shuffles they keeo wasting moves, and if green shuffles then red can exchange all their pieces and mate the alone royal