just because you dont agree with one thing does not make it wrong
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Sep 27, 2023
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#103
AngryPuffer wrote:
Ziryab wrote:
AngryPuffer wrote:
Ziryab wrote:
Five of Trump’s lawyers in New York have been fined $7,500 each for “repetitive and frivolous arguments”. Blacking is how responsible posters keep such arguments out of threads they create.
Open discussion does not mean a cacophony of endless nonsense. But, that’s what we have when certain members dominate the forums.
thats sad, it really seems like if they are trying to take away free speech bit by bit
america is supposed to be a free country where you can say what you think and not get jail time, fined, killed, or punished in any other way
Lawyers live by a system of ethics. Courts are not chaos, but places for reasoned and informed arguments about the law and evidence. When you refuse to play by the rules, there are consequences.
Seeing such sanctions as an attack of free speech is evidence that you do not understand the concept.
and what do you consider as "nonsense"
its hard to define that word, its different with each person
Evidence is not subjective in most cases. Opinions differ, of course. But facts can be established by processes that are subject to certain constraints. In law, these are called “rules of evidence”. Law students take courses in the subject. The Bar Exam tests what they learned.
Internet forums are different. Most people here are children. Some are old, but remain juvenile in their thinking. A few engage in reasoned discussion.
Sep 27, 2023
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#104
AngryPuffer wrote:
just because you dont agree with one thing does not make it wrong
If I disagree, the odds are quite good that it is wrong. My entire life’s focus the pst 45 years has been grounded in sorting through evidence. I have opinions that are not so grounded, but these are not what I discuss in internet forums. Unlike the vast majority of posters, I limit myself to matters about which I have some knowledge.
Ziryab wrote:
AngryPuffer wrote:
Ziryab wrote:
AngryPuffer wrote:
Ziryab wrote:
Five of Trump’s lawyers in New York have been fined $7,500 each for “repetitive and frivolous arguments”. Blacking is how responsible posters keep such arguments out of threads they create.
Open discussion does not mean a cacophony of endless nonsense. But, that’s what we have when certain members dominate the forums.
thats sad, it really seems like if they are trying to take away free speech bit by bit
america is supposed to be a free country where you can say what you think and not get jail time, fined, killed, or punished in any other way
Lawyers live by a system of ethics. Courts are not chaos, but places for reasoned and informed arguments about the law and evidence. When you refuse to play by the rules, there are consequences.
Seeing such sanctions as an attack of free speech is evidence that you do not understand the concept.
and what do you consider as "nonsense"
its hard to define that word, its different with each person
Evidence is not subjective in most cases. Opinions differ, of course. But facts can be established by processes that are subject to certain constraints. In law, these are called “rules of evidence”. Law students take courses in the subject. The Bar Exam tests what they learned.
Internet forums are different. Most people here are children. Some are old, but remain juvenile in their thinking. A few engage in reasoned discussion.
"it is a fact that you are speaking nonsense"
it really seems subjective, how is it a fact?
???
Sep 27, 2023
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#107
AngryPuffer wrote:
Ziryab wrote:
AngryPuffer wrote:
Ziryab wrote:
AngryPuffer wrote:
Ziryab wrote:
Five of Trump’s lawyers in New York have been fined $7,500 each for “repetitive and frivolous arguments”. Blacking is how responsible posters keep such arguments out of threads they create.
Open discussion does not mean a cacophony of endless nonsense. But, that’s what we have when certain members dominate the forums.
thats sad, it really seems like if they are trying to take away free speech bit by bit
america is supposed to be a free country where you can say what you think and not get jail time, fined, killed, or punished in any other way
Lawyers live by a system of ethics. Courts are not chaos, but places for reasoned and informed arguments about the law and evidence. When you refuse to play by the rules, there are consequences.
Seeing such sanctions as an attack of free speech is evidence that you do not understand the concept.
and what do you consider as "nonsense"
its hard to define that word, its different with each person
Evidence is not subjective in most cases. Opinions differ, of course. But facts can be established by processes that are subject to certain constraints. In law, these are called “rules of evidence”. Law students take courses in the subject. The Bar Exam tests what they learned.
Internet forums are different. Most people here are children. Some are old, but remain juvenile in their thinking. A few engage in reasoned discussion.
"it is a fact that you are speaking nonsense"
it really seems subjective, how is it a fact?
The "fact" is that you are misquoting. That's undeniable.
I wrote, "Open discussion does not mean a cacophony of endless nonsense."
The statement was not aimed at you, but a general statement about the state of forums in this group.
DiogenesDue wrote:
EndgameEnthusiast2357 wrote:
"It's not unacceptable to me, it's just cowardly of you and no way to live a life. There's a difference.
Faulty premise, but I am not surprised you hold this point of view."- not really.
Cowardly? Taking precautions not to get sick? LOL I wonder what you would think of the fact that I keep lysol with me in my car and spray the gas pump handle before using it. Not one other actual real response to any other points. There is no benefit of living independently if you end up in a worse financial situation than you are right now. The only possible reason someone would still insist on that if they don't dislike their family/quality of life at home, is virtue signaling. Ethics don't apply, unless your going for the "it's unfair that I had to work for my money so I should make my kids work and be just as miserable" luny logic. People have a right to be bitter with the way society is today. Forcing yourself to smile your way through life and put on a brave face and act all phoney cheery like everything is hunky dorey is yet another example of virtue signaling. This thread is actually proving its purpose with this interaction, showing how blocked users still will write paragraphs interacting with each other, so blocking is pointless and merely a way of throwing a temper tantrum.
Cowardly, because that's not the reason you are avoiding people at all...and if this thread is anything, it's a microcosm of your life choices. Bitter, isolated by choice, and full of willful ignorance. Enjoy.
No, my main reason is to avoid getting sick, have the privacy, and save data by parking near internet kiosks. And I idle if I need the AC or heat.
Ziryab wrote:
AngryPuffer wrote:
Ziryab wrote:
Five of Trump’s lawyers in New York have been fined $7,500 each for “repetitive and frivolous arguments”. Blacking is how responsible posters keep such arguments out of threads they create.
Open discussion does not mean a cacophony of endless nonsense. But, that’s what we have when certain members dominate the forums.
thats sad, it really seems like if they are trying to take away free speech bit by bit
america is supposed to be a free country where you can say what you think and not get jail time, fined, killed, or punished in any other way
Lawyers live by a system of ethics. Courts are not chaos, but places for reasoned and informed arguments about the law and evidence. When you refuse to play by the rules, there are consequences.
Seeing such sanctions as an attack of free speech is evidence that you do not understand the concept.
I disagree. Free speech should be all or nothing. Otherwise there is no objective limit to what is "not allowed". The AARoads forum is an example of an extremely censored site that mutes, bans, and IP bans for very trivial reasons.
Sep 27, 2023
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#110
EndgameEnthusiast2357 wrote:
Ziryab wrote:
AngryPuffer wrote:
Ziryab wrote:
Five of Trump’s lawyers in New York have been fined $7,500 each for “repetitive and frivolous arguments”. Blacking is how responsible posters keep such arguments out of threads they create.
Open discussion does not mean a cacophony of endless nonsense. But, that’s what we have when certain members dominate the forums.
thats sad, it really seems like if they are trying to take away free speech bit by bit
america is supposed to be a free country where you can say what you think and not get jail time, fined, killed, or punished in any other way
Lawyers live by a system of ethics. Courts are not chaos, but places for reasoned and informed arguments about the law and evidence. When you refuse to play by the rules, there are consequences.
Seeing such sanctions as an attack of free speech is evidence that you do not understand the concept.
I disagree. Free speech should be all or nothing.
We are talking about courts.
no free speech in courts!!!
Let's try and keep discussion of political figures out of this thread. This is the only recourse for blocked members as of now.
A reminder of the proper way to use this thread:
1. Copy and paste the post you want to reply to in a thread you are blocked in.
2. Put a link to the thread in here with any user info about who you are replying to.
3. Reply to the post as you would in the other thread.
Sep 27, 2023
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#113
EndgameEnthusiast2357 wrote:
Little Elroch couldn't face the facts in his climate thread yet again LOL. You'd better hope I never get a full time job because 1/3 of that money would go to driving, would double my greenhouse gas emissions!
The OP wants to lay down rules that prohibit political discussion, but neglects to add that he is using this thread to advance the absurdities that got him blocked from a serious discussion about climate change.
I never brought up politics in the global warming thread. The purpose if this thread is to bypass blocks on threads while still staying within Terms of Service on the site. Any TOS violations don't have to be lifted from those threads and talked about here, because they can be dealt with in the problem thread to begin with, by site staff.
The weather is not warmer. The temp actually dropped to 59 degrees yesterday and I needed a jacket at night. Need a comforter overnight cause it go a bit nippy in the apartment over night. Thankfully the weather will return to normal when October starts. Temps of 70, 77, 78, and 80 the first four days..about time!
Sep 27, 2023
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#115
Yes, with the recent drop in temperatures, we should be heading into an ice age.
Nice doctored graph! Post the one that covers 10,000,000 years! You people complained that Henry's graphs left out 150 years on one end, while you people leave out 9,999,850 years on the other end.
Yes, Earth is headed for another ice age. 10,000-20,000 years of now North America may be covered in half a mile of ice. Technically, we may still be in the tail end of the last ice age.
And it ain't any serious discussion in the other thread, just compulsive bashing and blocking of anyone who disagrees with the theory of climate change, and scientist Elroch who thinks anti-matter tech must mean perpetual motion machines, or that China's emissions dont count in the total
CERN lab researchers would be dirtying their pants laughing so hard at Elroch's comments.
EndgameEnthusiast2357 wrote:
Let's try and keep discussion of political figures out of this thread. This is the only recourse for blocked members as of now.
A reminder of the proper way to use this thread:
1. Copy and paste the post you want to reply to in a thread you are blocked in.
2. Put a link to the thread in here with any user info about who you are replying to.
3. Reply to the post as you would in the other thread.
But you logically cannot enforce this...because you clearly stated you would never block anyone on this thread.
I guess you're learning life's lessons the hard way.
EndgameEnthusiast2357 wrote:
Nice doctored graph! Post the one that covers 10,000,000 years! You people complained that Henry's graphs left out 150 years on one end, while you people leave out 9,999,850 years on the other end.
Yes, Earth is headed for another ice age. 10,000-20,000 years of now North America may be covered in half a mile of ice. Technically, we may still be in the tail end of the last ice age.
And it ain't any serious discussion in the other thread, just compulsive bashing and blocking of anyone who disagrees with the theory of climate change, and scientist Elroch who thinks anti-matter tech must mean perpetual motion machines, or that China's emissions dont count in the total
CERN lab researchers would be dirtying their pants laughing so hard at Elroch's comments.
You do not understand the definition of "doctored". Henry's graph was doctored...the scale showed 1 million years ago to the present, but eliminated the last 150 years because it would have shown a spike he could not explain. Ziryab's graph shows the industrial revolution (a perfectly good spot to show man-made climate change's progression) until the present, with nothing eliminated.
And that's about as far as I will go, no need to bring more attention to this thread made for posters having tantrums because the mature people stopped listening to them.
I don't plan on enforcing anything here, that's kind of the point.
DiogenesDue wrote:
EndgameEnthusiast2357 wrote:
Nice doctored graph! Post the one that covers 10,000,000 years! You people complained that Henry's graphs left out 150 years on one end, while you people leave out 9,999,850 years on the other end.
Yes, Earth is headed for another ice age. 10,000-20,000 years of now North America may be covered in half a mile of ice. Technically, we may still be in the tail end of the last ice age.
And it ain't any serious discussion in the other thread, just compulsive bashing and blocking of anyone who disagrees with the theory of climate change, and scientist Elroch who thinks anti-matter tech must mean perpetual motion machines, or that China's emissions dont count in the total
CERN lab researchers would be dirtying their pants laughing so hard at Elroch's comments.
You do not understand the definition of "doctored". Henry's graph was doctored...the scale showed 1 million years ago to the present, but eliminated the last 150 years because it would have shown a spike he could not explain. Ziryab's graph shows the industrial revolution (a perfectly good spot to show man-made climate change's progression) until the present, with nothing eliminated.
And that's about as far as I will go, no need to bring more attention to this thread made for posters having tantrums because the mature people stopped listening to them.
If climate change comes in cycles than yes you have a graph much longer than a million years. The spike is on co2 emissions, not in temperature. Those temp spikes can be seen hundreds of other times in the planets history. The spike in co2 in the last 150 years doesn't negate the fact at all that in general co2 emissions follow temp changes and not the other way around. It's extraneous info, and this is the problem with climate science, false interpretations of data by even the top scientists.
Five of Trump’s lawyers in New York have been fined $7,500 each for “repetitive and frivolous arguments”. Blacking is how responsible posters keep such arguments out of threads they create.
Open discussion does not mean a cacophony of endless nonsense. But, that’s what we have when certain members dominate the forums.
thats sad, it really seems like if they are trying to take away free speech bit by bit
america is supposed to be a free country where you can say what you think and not get jail time, fined, killed, or punished in any other way
Lawyers live by a system of ethics. Courts are not chaos, but places for reasoned and informed arguments about the law and evidence. When you refuse to play by the rules, there are consequences.
Seeing such sanctions as an attack of free speech is evidence that you do not understand the concept.
and what do you consider as "nonsense"
its hard to define that word, its different with each person