FYI: If your opponent takes several minutes to make a move in an utterly awful position and then turns into a 3000+ Elo godmode hacker, always playing the best move and always taking the same amount of time to do it, you're playing a Stockfish user. Block and report.
I'm having trouble against players using the Damiano Defense. The worst opening in chess.
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It’s very normal for a person to play well when they are down material.
Some players, when they know they are losing, play extremely well because they have nothing left to lose.
Some players feel pressure to not make a mistake, but when you mess up and know you are losing. All the pressure goes away! You sort of come to terms with it and you just try the best you can to salvage the situation.
This is why the Famous Chess Phrase Exists:
”The Hardest Chess Game to win is an already won Game!”
This unique situation exists at all Chess levels. Some players are just very good at fighting back in a lost position.
The issue is a Lost Position is Lost and it is best not to get into Lost Positions!
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When a player loses so much material, They will lose by Force!
Not even a Chess Engine can save them from losing. It’s a Forced Loss!
The Question is are you as the Winning Player able to Carefully Convert the Winning Position into an actual Win?
Are you able to Clinically demonstrate the Proper Technique?
In this game, You didn’t!
You was up 1 Rook + 2 Pawns and You Lost!
Let say for argument sake your opponent was using a Chess Engine at the end!
IT DOESN’T MATTER!
You are up almost a Queen worth of material!
Even the Super Computer will lose by Force!
The Entire World of People + Chess Engines could be helping your opponent in this position.
They could be telling him all the perfect moves to play, BUT it doesn’t matter!
You should crush them all because in this position you are up to much material!
The White position is unstoppable!
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You need to Improve your Finishing Technique!
Play the Same Position vs. an Engine as Practice!
Reach a Point where your unstoppable!
I think what #3 was tryna say is that they were in a losing position, and shouldn’t have won, and that you should’ve won. But… idk. That would require perfect play from you as well. If you suspect someone of cheating, smudging, etc… report them.
Looking at the given game, you should play some longer time control. 5 minute blitz is better than 3 minute, and 10 min rapid is even better. You play too slowly for 3 minute, get into horrible time trouble and at that point nothing matters any more.
11 hrs ago
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#6
I know streamers and coaches warn about memorization vs principles, but my friend, I learned how to slaughter people who use the Damiano by literally drawing a flowchart and making index cards that covered most of the bases. After the knight sac, you check with Qh5+ (I'm sure you know this) and they can only block with g6 or run with Ke7, either way you follow up with Qxe5+ (I'm sure you know this, too). After that, there's one line that is, at best, mate in 11; another line, you've cooked their h8 rook and now they try to smother your queen; another line still, they Qxe5+ with their queen, you cook the rook, then they Qxe4+ on you, so you slide the king over to avoid losing the g2 pawn.
It took me a long time, and I lost a lot of games, but eventually you're going to have the first ten to twenty moves covered, you'll understand the main attacks, etc. Also, if you're looking for a partner to practice this stuff with, then add me and we'll play a bunch of unrated games so you can practice without losing rating points.
badfragments wrote:
I know streamers and coaches warn about memorization vs principles, but my friend, I learned how to slaughter people who use the Damiano by literally drawing a flowchart and making index cards that covered most of the bases. After the knight sac, you check with Qh5+ (I'm sure you know this) and they can only block with g6 or run with Ke7, either way you follow up with Qxe5+ (I'm sure you know this, too). After that, there's one line that is, at best, mate in 11; another line, you've cooked their h8 rook and now they try to smother your queen; another line still, they Qxe5+ with their queen, you cook the rook, then they Qxe4+ on you, so you slide the king over to avoid losing the g2 pawn.
It took me a long time, and I lost a lot of games, but eventually you're going to have the first ten to twenty moves covered, you'll understand the main attacks, etc. Also, if you're looking for a partner to practice this stuff with, then add me and we'll play a bunch of unrated games so you can practice without losing rating points.
The OP was up a full rook after move 7. I guess your flowchart doesn't cover that position.
11 hrs ago
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#8
I also want to add, the index cards and flow charts are for learning, not for having a desk full of flash cards or a bunch of strings connecting them like Russell Crowe in A Beautiful Mind. When you play daily games, you can access the explorer tool at any time, but the point of the explorer tool, like the flash cards, is to learn and internalize patterns so that you don't NEED to look at them anymore.
Also, the Damiano is a double-edged sword because once you get really good at it, you'll get to a level where no one plays it anymore, like the Fried Liver/Traxler Counterattack lines. There are certain lines people stop playing after a certain level, yes you might see them but not all freaking day like we do down in the sub-1000 slums.
11 hrs ago
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#9
magipi wrote:
badfragments wrote:
I know streamers and coaches warn about memorization vs principles, but my friend, I learned how to slaughter people who use the Damiano by literally drawing a flowchart and making index cards that covered most of the bases. After the knight sac, you check with Qh5+ (I'm sure you know this) and they can only block with g6 or run with Ke7, either way you follow up with Qxe5+ (I'm sure you know this, too). After that, there's one line that is, at best, mate in 11; another line, you've cooked their h8 rook and now they try to smother your queen; another line still, they Qxe5+ with their queen, you cook the rook, then they Qxe4+ on you, so you slide the king over to avoid losing the g2 pawn.
It took me a long time, and I lost a lot of games, but eventually you're going to have the first ten to twenty moves covered, you'll understand the main attacks, etc. Also, if you're looking for a partner to practice this stuff with, then add me and we'll play a bunch of unrated games so you can practice without losing rating points.
The OP was up a full rook after move 7. I guess your flowchart doesn't cover that position.
That is a very unhelpful comment, thank you!
badfragments wrote:
magipi wrote:
badfragments wrote:
I know streamers and coaches warn about memorization vs principles, but my friend, I learned how to slaughter people who use the Damiano by literally drawing a flowchart and making index cards that covered most of the bases. After the knight sac, you check with Qh5+ (I'm sure you know this) and they can only block with g6 or run with Ke7, either way you follow up with Qxe5+ (I'm sure you know this, too). After that, there's one line that is, at best, mate in 11; another line, you've cooked their h8 rook and now they try to smother your queen; another line still, they Qxe5+ with their queen, you cook the rook, then they Qxe4+ on you, so you slide the king over to avoid losing the g2 pawn.
It took me a long time, and I lost a lot of games, but eventually you're going to have the first ten to twenty moves covered, you'll understand the main attacks, etc. Also, if you're looking for a partner to practice this stuff with, then add me and we'll play a bunch of unrated games so you can practice without losing rating points.
The OP was up a full rook after move 7. I guess your flowchart doesn't cover that position.
That is a very unhelpful comment, thank you!
That's the truth, dude. The OP has problems with time trouble and converting a winning position, not with the opening. Your flowchart doesn't help at all.
11 hrs ago
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#11
magipi wrote:
badfragments wrote:
magipi wrote:
badfragments wrote:
I know streamers and coaches warn about memorization vs principles, but my friend, I learned how to slaughter people who use the Damiano by literally drawing a flowchart and making index cards that covered most of the bases. After the knight sac, you check with Qh5+ (I'm sure you know this) and they can only block with g6 or run with Ke7, either way you follow up with Qxe5+ (I'm sure you know this, too). After that, there's one line that is, at best, mate in 11; another line, you've cooked their h8 rook and now they try to smother your queen; another line still, they Qxe5+ with their queen, you cook the rook, then they Qxe4+ on you, so you slide the king over to avoid losing the g2 pawn.
It took me a long time, and I lost a lot of games, but eventually you're going to have the first ten to twenty moves covered, you'll understand the main attacks, etc. Also, if you're looking for a partner to practice this stuff with, then add me and we'll play a bunch of unrated games so you can practice without losing rating points.
The OP was up a full rook after move 7. I guess your flowchart doesn't cover that position.
That is a very unhelpful comment, thank you!
That's the truth, dude. The OP has problems with time trouble and converting a winning position, not with the opening. Your flowchart doesn't help at all.
bro you haven't even seen my flowchart
badfragments wrote:
magipi wrote:
badfragments wrote:
magipi wrote:
badfragments wrote:
I know streamers and coaches warn about memorization vs principles, but my friend, I learned how to slaughter people who use the Damiano by literally drawing a flowchart and making index cards that covered most of the bases. After the knight sac, you check with Qh5+ (I'm sure you know this) and they can only block with g6 or run with Ke7, either way you follow up with Qxe5+ (I'm sure you know this, too). After that, there's one line that is, at best, mate in 11; another line, you've cooked their h8 rook and now they try to smother your queen; another line still, they Qxe5+ with their queen, you cook the rook, then they Qxe4+ on you, so you slide the king over to avoid losing the g2 pawn.
It took me a long time, and I lost a lot of games, but eventually you're going to have the first ten to twenty moves covered, you'll understand the main attacks, etc. Also, if you're looking for a partner to practice this stuff with, then add me and we'll play a bunch of unrated games so you can practice without losing rating points.
The OP was up a full rook after move 7. I guess your flowchart doesn't cover that position.
That is a very unhelpful comment, thank you!
That's the truth, dude. The OP has problems with time trouble and converting a winning position, not with the opening. Your flowchart doesn't help at all.
bro you haven't even seen my flowchart
I have not seen it either, but Boris can feel it is a beautiful flow chart. Maybe someday he can see?
10 hrs ago
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#13
magipi wrote:
badfragments wrote:
I know streamers and coaches warn about memorization vs principles, but my friend, I learned how to slaughter people who use the Damiano by literally drawing a flowchart and making index cards that covered most of the bases. After the knight sac, you check with Qh5+ (I'm sure you know this) and they can only block with g6 or run with Ke7, either way you follow up with Qxe5+ (I'm sure you know this, too). After that, there's one line that is, at best, mate in 11; another line, you've cooked their h8 rook and now they try to smother your queen; another line still, they Qxe5+ with their queen, you cook the rook, then they Qxe4+ on you, so you slide the king over to avoid losing the g2 pawn.
It took me a long time, and I lost a lot of games, but eventually you're going to have the first ten to twenty moves covered, you'll understand the main attacks, etc. Also, if you're looking for a partner to practice this stuff with, then add me and we'll play a bunch of unrated games so you can practice without losing rating points.
The OP was up a full rook after move 7. I guess your flowchart doesn't cover that position.
it covers more than your hairline, broseph
I have a about a 20% win ratio against the opening for some reason. I studied and understand the main lines. However, if I'm up say a rook my opponent completely destroys me shortly afterwards.
Other than practice suggesting to practice, is there a reason why that someone in the 80+ percentile is playing the worst opening possible and then completely eating my soul with the not making a single mistake once? I've analyzed about 20-ish games so far but I've noticed my opponent after being down 6 points of material or more, never once made a mistake. I make one blunder or one mistake even being +10 ahead (according to the review), I die. Am I possibly versing against a smurf account? Is there a new meta that I am not aware of or possibly a new line with the damiano defense?
I will be 100% honest, if my opponent is down a rook (with no trap lines set up) or down say two bishops after playing such an opening, I am inclined to report that account. I understand that is very silly and overactive but I can't help the fact that someone with an elo implicitly telling me that my opponent understands SOME form of opening (other than the bong cloud) but doesn't do so.
This is an example:
https://www.chess.com/game/live/140340403672?move=0
If there is anyone here that can give me some advice on my lines. That would be great. Yes, in this review, I did hang my queen since I was nervous and short on time. Please keep in mind my opponents time control and incredible consistency.