Aagard vs Dvoretsky & Yusupov

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Gladiator101

Hello guys!

My name is Carlo,

Chess is my main hobby, and I've been studying it for almost a year now. I have lots of time for it (I'm still in school) and I have reached a level of around 1850 OTB.

My eventual goal is to get to 2200 FIDE. Bearing this in mind, what book series would you recommend for me to work on?

The three suggestions an IM in my club gave me are:

  • Excelling at ... by Aagard
  • Grandmaster Preparation by Aagard
  • Secrets of ... by Dvoretsky & Yusupov
  • School of Chess Excellence by Dvoretsky & Yusupov
Aagard, Dvoretsky and Yusupov are clearly three of the very best chess writers at the moment (hence the title)

The books I own at this point in time are:

  • Dvoretsky's Endgame Manual
  • Zurich 1953 (Bronstein's version)
  • The Life and Games of Mikhail Tal

and I've ordered "Bologan's Black Weapons in the Open Games" and the recent "Chess Structures: a Grandmaster Guide" by Mauricio Flores Rios.

Feel free to offer any suggestions/tips/warnings or to point me to another author/series that I've not mentioned in my post.

Thanks! Laughing

00kirsch

do still want an answer or is it late...

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00kirsch wrote:

do still want an answer or is it late...

 

I would like to hear the answer. I'm going through Chess Steps right now, plan on doing Yusupov's school of chess after that, and I would like to know if I should do GM Preparation, Dvoretsky, or something different after Yusupov?

wayne_thomas

Yusupov recently came out with a set of nine books: Build Up Your Chess 1 the Fundamentals to Chess Evolution 3 Mastery. They are divided into chapters that cover specific tactical motifs or positional themes. Might be worth a look.

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wayne_thomas wrote:

Yusupov recently came out with a set of nine books: Build Up Your Chess 1 the Fundamentals to Chess Evolution 3 Mastery. They are divided into chapters that cover specific tactical motifs or positional themes. Might be worth a look.

 

Yeah, those are the ones I was talking about when I called them school of chess. I don't know what they are called. I'm mostly wondering what to do after those.

Bardu

School of Chess Excellence is different from Build, Boost, Evolve. I am going the Yusupov/Dvoretsky route myself, so that's what I'd recommend. They are excellent writers. I have no experience with Aagard however.

wayne_thomas

Some other books that might be useful:

Mikhail Botvinnik. One Hundred Selected Games.

Vlastimil Hort and Vlastimil Jansa.  The Best Move.

Mihail Marin. Secrets of Attacking Chess.

Aron Nimzowitsch. My System.

John Nunn. Nunn's Chess Endings vol. 1&2.

John Nunn. Understanding Chess Move by Move.

Jonathan Rowson. Chess for Zebras: Thinking Differently about Black and White.

Ivan Sokolov. Winning Chess Middlegames.

Jan Timman. The Art of Chess Analysis.

Jonathan Tisdall. Improve Your Chess Now.

Andrei Volokitin. Perfect Your Chess.

Alex Yermolinsky. The Road to Chess Improvement.

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Bardu wrote:

School of Chess Excellence is different from Build, Boost, Evolve. I am going the Yusupov/Dvoretsky route myself, so that's what I'd recommend. They are excellent writers. I have no experience with Aagard however.

 

Oh, I see! The Build, Boost, Evolution books were the ones I was talking about. I like the systematic approach of books like Chess Steps, those Yusupov ones, and, from what I've heard, the Dvoretsky ones. Could you kindly point out which Dvoretsky books, and in which order they should be done, people are referring to when they suggest them for systematic study?

 

 Thanks to Mr. Thomas as well; however, I am talking about systematic training with just a few series of books.

wayne_thomas

Yusupov has put a fair amount of effort into grading his books for difficulty, starting from easier concepts and moving to harder ones.

Dvoretsky's books are collections of articles he wrote for magazines or web sites at different times. There are books on tactics, strategy, openings, endgames and attack/defence (calculation). The books themselves are a bit of a mishmash with lumps of coal amidst the gold, but there is usually something of interest in each book. None of the articles are terribly easy. You could probably start with whichever one attracts your interest.

wayne_thomas

There are a few other series of training books. John Nunn wrote Nunn's Chess Openings, Understanding Chess Middlegames and Understanding Chess Endings which is easier than the other two I mentioned above. Nunn is a very interesting writer in that he tries to incorporate new discoveries into his books rather than just rehash other people's work. NCO isn't a textbook though; it's an encyclopedia.

Johann Hellsten wrote Mastering Chess Openings, Mastering Chess Strategy and Mastering Chess Endgames. Neil McDonald wrote Concise Chess Openings, Middlegames and Endings which are all quite short.

Ludek Pachman wrote a bunch of textbooks in the 1960's and '70's which were quite comprehensive at that time. Lev Alburt has also written on openings, middlegames and endings.

poucin

Clearly Dvoretsky or Yusupov.

I don't like Aagard's book, i don't know why but maybe i don't like their structure, or the way he wants to teach which is hermetic to me.

2muchswagz
So you all know, you can find previews of Aagard's books online. I looked through them and I found that many of the chapter titles (3-4 per book usually! I believe some of them have around 8ish too). I also read a few pages and from what's I've saw they are all problems and and analysis. I guess his books would be beneficial to a master or something looking for that oomph, but I feel player yours and my rating need ideas and strategies.
Dvorestky and yusopov!
2muchswagz
Didn't finish my sentence... Many of the chapter titles seem extremely vague and obvious to me.
Bardu

The School of Chess Excellence built Dvoretskty's reputation (in English). His Endgame Manual cemented it. The School of Chess Excellence books are among the best examples of chess literature, if too challenging for most readers. The Endgame Manual is a contender for both the best book written on the endgame and best book ever written on chess.

His more recent Secrets of... series with Yusupov is not up to the same standards.

https://web.archive.org/web/20140708233815/http://www.chesscafe.com/text/review399.pdf