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In a cafe- no great photography or best board-pieces combo (or serious position happy.png ) to feature, but okay. Baku pieces, named after tournament photos from Baku, this style is believed to be from the Leningrad region, made around 1950. ( Here is a link to a great article by Chuck Grau on this style: https://sovietchesssets.com/2022/12/16/baku-pieces-from-leningrad-regions-artel-drevprom/ )

They are just never available "en occasion", so, after scrutinizing photos and prices for a long time on etsy, I decided these are the best Baku knights I have seen and went for great form, worn finish (no box, no board) good price to become a lucky user of this incredible design and vintage pieces.

Finishes such as theirs change over time and show use, without the pieces going down. For sure there's a magic of sets that resist the marks of time and play, but, I'd argue, seeing time and use and the remnants of the original colour, on working pieces, beats that easily. Junk in your terms, desperate, beauty in mine. Or can you be convinced, this time?

chessmaster_diamond

I got this set from CB a couple of years ago, shortly after they had introduced version 3.0. I ordered it lacquered to make sure the colour won't come off. Also made the pieces pop even more.

DesperateKingWalk

That is a good photo. And yet another chess set posted and used from play. No closet chess set here.

hermanjohnell
DesperateKingWalk wrote:

That is a good photo. And yet another chess set posted and used from play. No closet chess set here.

But does it see rough play? I think (and hope) not. ungewichtet is a mild mannered and sensible fellow who takes great care of his possesions. Any set (regardless of material and finish) will have a long life in his hands. At least I believe this to be the case.

DesperateKingWalk
hermanjohnell wrote:
DesperateKingWalk wrote:

That is a good photo. And yet another chess set posted and used from play. No closet chess set here.

But does it see rough play? I think (and hope) not. ungewichtet is a mild mannered and sensible fellow who takes great care of his possesions. Any set (regardless of material and finish) will have a long life in his hands. At least I believe this to be the case.

Looking at the chess set it has seen some rough times. And the finish has been obliterated. So I guess your words. Keep Proving My Point!

And anytime you travel with a chess set to play tournaments, or any play. That is rough on the chess set. As it is no longer setting in the CLOSET!

Time itself is rough on a chess set if it has any type of constant use.

And again I ask what finish held up better Natural wood vs Plastic on the vintage chess sets.

And to your fake data point... You claimed any play.grin 99% of the people here just buy closet chess sets here.

You are way wrong. It´s 99 % of the sets posted that doesn´t se rough (or any) play-hermanjohnell

hermanjohnell
DesperateKingWalk wrote:
 

Looking at the chess set it has seen some rough times. And the finish has been obliterated.

Still, I doubt that is ungewichtets doing. But he can tell. As for the rest of your post I decline to respond.

DesperateKingWalk
hermanjohnell wrote:
DesperateKingWalk wrote:
 

Looking at the chess set it has seen some rough times. And the finish has been obliterated.

Still, I doubt that is ungewichtets doing. But he can tell. As for the rest of your post I decline to respond.

It has nothing to do with the person. As I said it is the nature of the beast. Those type of finishes will obliterate with use.

And yet you will keep pretending to know things. And making up things.

And in a conversation you started Plastic vs Natural wood. And after seeing the photos you want nothing to do with the comparison.

Set one vintage Natural wood with hard use.,

Set two vintage Ultimate chess set in plastic with hard use.

And the chess set you claimed is fine without being natural wood or plastic.....

But does it see rough play? I think (and hope) not. ungewichtet is a mild mannered and sensible fellow who takes great care of his possesions. Any set (regardless of material and finish) will have a long life in his hands. At least I believe this to be the case. happyevilcry

Yenster1

We should note here that we are now discussing 'finishes' and not 'stains'. It appears the 'stained' black pieces have held up quite well for a ~70 yrs. old set. On the other hand, the primitive (surely organic) shellac from back then were just that ... 'primitive', as compared to the synthetic (any poly) coatings of today. But back to the 'stains', even the 'stains' of today have advanced greatly, especially in combination with modern-day protective (synthetic) coatings.

DesperateKingWalk

Or you buy natural woods, and that never obliterate. Because the color is the wood!

hermanjohnell
DesperateKingWalk wrote:
hermanjohnell wrote:
DesperateKingWalk wrote:
 

Looking at the chess set it has seen some rough times. And the finish has been obliterated.

Still, I doubt that is ungewichtets doing. But he can tell. As for the rest of your post I decline to respond.

It has nothing to do with the person. As I said it is the nature of the beast. Those type of finishes will obliterate with use.

And yet you will keep pretending to know things. And making up things.

And in a conversation you started Plastic vs Natural wood. And after seeing the photos you want nothing to do with the comparison.

Noone except you knows anything. Those who hold other wiews than you do are idiots. I, beeing one of them, am sorry if I, out of my vast ignorance, have irritated you. Please disregard anything I post so that I can continue to discuss things neitehr I nor them know anything about, with my friends. Again, please accept y humble and sincere apology.

DesperateKingWalk

That is what happens with a obvious pretender vs someone who has the receipts.

Yenster1

@ungewichtet That's a great Baku set you got there, congrats! One can immediately 'see' the history, and be intrigued and inspired to discover more about that set. I imagine another set appearing brand 'new' would seem emotionless and benign if it were sitting next to yours there. I'm sure a pristine and shiny set has its appeal to many folks, but this seems almost paradoxical considering nearly all sets that we acquire today are icons of sets from years past.

And I can just imagine the discussions that you provoke when you bring that set out to play with others. Nice find.

hermanjohnell
DesperateKingWalk wrote:

That is what happens with a obvious pretender vs someone who has the receipts.

I wouldn´t, not in my fiercest nightmare, even dream to pretend to be you. Or like you.

Rsava
Yenster1 wrote:

@ungewichtet That's a great Baku set you got there, congrats! One can immediately 'see' the history, and be intrigued and inspired to discover more about that set. I imagine another set appearing brand 'new' would seem emotionless and benign if it were sitting next to yours there. I'm sure a pristine and shiny set has its appeal to many folks, but this seems almost paradoxical considering nearly all sets that we acquire today are icons of sets from years past.

And I can just imagine the discussions that you provoke when you bring that set out to play with others. Nice find.

I have a set in similar condition, a small 50s or 60s Latvian set that the seller informed me a piece (white B) had been broken and repaired (completely upfront, showed me several pics of it).

It was one of the sets on my bucket list, the damage did not look horrific, so I grabbed it.

When it came in, it was obvious that it had seen some battles, had been carried around quite a bit, and the folding board had quite a bit of wear as well.

So, I made up a story about how it was broken and I'm sticking with it. That is how it happened and no one can change my mind ... happy

Love both acquiring, and playing with, these sets. They always spark some talk (that's when I drag out my story) and when in public draw some passers-by who have never seen a chess set like that. The Baku set above @ungewichtet must surely do the same.

Yenster1

Glad to hear it @Rsava. But now I'm wondering about your story of that broken board happy. I don't think that I've ever heard of a 'big fish' chess story. You'll have to tell it to us sometime. I sense it will be an entertaining embellishment, and put smiles on many faces.

DesperateKingWalk
hermanjohnell wrote:
DesperateKingWalk wrote:

That is what happens with a obvious pretender vs someone who has the receipts.

I wouldn´t, not in my fiercest nightmare, even dream to pretend to be you. Or like you.

I know....

You are more interested in giving out false information. Or just making up fake data points.

You are more interested in your personality, then giving out correct information to the forum.

Then you get P.O. on a topic you initiated with me....because the facts did not support your false narrative. And you got hoisted on your own petard.

Bye!

hermanjohnell
DesperateKingWalk wrote:
hermanjohnell wrote:
DesperateKingWalk wrote:

That is what happens with a obvious pretender vs someone who has the receipts.

I wouldn´t, not in my fiercest nightmare, even dream to pretend to be you. Or like you.

I know....

No, you don´t.

You are more interested in giving out false information. Or just making up fake data points.

No,I´m not. I just offer my opinions.

You are more interested in your personality, then giving out correct information to the forum.

I don´t even know what you mean. Projection? As I said I only offer my opinions, whether they are correct or not is a matter of discussion.

Then you get P.O. on a topic you initiated with me....because the facts did not support your false narrative. And you got hoisted on your own petard.

Huh?

Bye!

I hope...

DesperateKingWalk
MalinkaMalinka2014 wrote:
Осторожно, ЗАХВАТ!

grincry

Yenster1

Thanks for PM-ing that story @Rsava happy