ChessNoteЯ - The future of chess notation

Thanks for your post. If you really cannot understand what I posted I feel sorry for you. 

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mmkay

 Gee, I understood it all just fine.

Ynotate has been turned down for US Chess certification so there is not even a slight hope that it will ever be certified.

This device and program will most certainly be certified as the security on it is exceptional and the device works very well.

No one has said that anyone should buy this device ever, let alone before it is certified.

Once certification occurs, I wouldn't be surprised to see the price increase as this is a great value at an even higher price than it currently is.

I will leave that determination to the individual. 

Also I was not making a comment about ynotate possibly being certified in the future. My only point is that as of now, it's no different.

I also made no claims that others were saying to buy now. I simply said I would absolutely wait. Others are free to make their own determination.

Go to a chess tournament and come back and all kinds of posts lol  My plan is to keep it as cheap as I can. I think $19.95 is a fantastic deal, I wish I could have gotten some of the other Nexus devices to work (just couldn't secure them) which would have allowed more people to use it as the price for say a Nexus 4 is about $40.00. We had some players that came down from CO (they have been beating up on our top players) and one of them checked out the device along with a gentleman from CA.

The user from CO said it's a fantastic device and it was to easy to use to notate, so much so she felt she had a leg up on her opponent since she didn't have to spend time writing down moves and was able to focus more on the game. That is kind of value I was striving for when creating this software, user friendly, something of value to help players and at a very fair price. Hopefully certification will be soon so more players will be able to take advantage of what this product can do for your game!

These electronic Chess notation devices are not for everyone.

The reasons why I use one include:

1. I never have to try to figure out what move I meant if I write it in haste.  This is clarity of the game score.

2. After the game, I usually go over it with my opponent, a post mortem.  These devices are extremely useful for this.  I can move back and forth in the game score with ease and the position is always pictured on the screen.  When we go into a variation and want to get back to the last game position all I need do is look at the screen and set the pieces on the board as it is pictured on the screen.  This is a lot more useful than you might think.

3. I can upload the pgn game score to my or any other computer.  From this I can load the game and save it in my database of my games.  I can also email my opponent or even TD the game score.  And all this takes less than 5 minutes to accomplish.

4. With the eNotate and PlyCounter there really was no time saving in entering the moves.  However with this new device it is noticeably faster than writing the move down.  I believe this is because of the large screen size and the fact that I do not need a stylus.

There has been times I have used pen and paper.  I then have to deal with the inconveniences mentioned in the points above.

I also agree that with today's technology there should be this kind of device available for a much cheaper price.  However the thing I keep hearing from many in the industry of Chess electronics, like clocks and so forth, is that the cost for the hardware at this kind of low volume is high.  This make for little or no real profit in sales and these retailers and producers are not interested in producing a product with such a low profit margin. 

Shame that FIDE outlawed electronic devices in the playing rooms...

Eyechess,

Yeah hopefully the Nexus 6 will continue to drop in price! When I started the business last year they were roughly $190.00 the have now dropped to $144 and less on eBay so hopefully the will keep dropping in price.

gambit-man,

Not sure what you are taking about they can still be used, just need to be certified. Check out section 6 on the linked PDF. Once I get (hopefully) USCF certification I will be working with FIDE next.

https://www.fide.com/FIDE/handbook/Standards_of_Chess_Equipment_and_tournament_venue.pdf

I'm not sure I understand.  What is the actual notation?  Can you write it down?  Or do you just input the game into the app and it exports a PDF file in algebraic notation?

Sylvex,

It creates a PGN of the notation based on moves you make in the game, and also a PDF which is a signed score sheet of the game you can turn into the TD. Check out the following videos

https://chessnoter.com/1-1-0/

Really? Have you actually asked FIDE? 

gambit-man,

I was in talks with the FIDE Technical Commission in December 2016. At that time they sent that document I linked too. Things may have changed since then as I have not been in touch with them since then, however that document is still on the FIDE site so my assumption is it's still active.

Does your software also allow players to input the time remaining on their clock after a move has been made?

The link you give above, rule 6 applies to electronic scoresheets.

In it, 6.1.3.1 states "The device is dedicated for notating chess games (not a multipurpose computer)."

Forgive me if i'm wrong, but a Nexus 6 is a tablet, capable of operating other apps. If i were sitting down to play a match at a tournament and my opponent whips out his tablet, he'd be promptly told to put it away in his bag (not pocket), since it contravenes FIDE rules on electronic devices.

Furthermore, if the app has the ability to store and recall games there are issues around this too. The user can effectively carry around with him a reference database for use in his games...

SeniorPatzer, Here is the time tracking the application offers as of 1.1.0 version https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65QtXEUR8po&t=0m34s

libertyattacker, yeah one day Nexus 6 for $50.00 bucks

gambit-man, Yes the Nexus 6 is a phablet (phone / tablet). I have created a complete stand alone version of the Android Operating System 5.1.1 which disables all hardware (bluetooth, camera, sound, nfc, cell card, etc.) from the device not needed and only configured the OS with only a launcher and the ChessNoteЯ software, all other software has also been removed (calculator, email, mms, phone, browser, google play, etc.) I have also disabled Developer Options, and 3rd Party installs from the device so it is completely secure. If you have further questions check out the following videos which breaks down the whole OS and all the settings it offers https://chessnoter.com/support-video/. In terms of the recall games it is no different than Monroi and eNotate which were both FIDE approved and offer that feature. Like those device the ChessNoteЯ software has that ability as well but only when you are not in tournament mode.

I did purchase one of these devices and I am very happy with it.

I have owned an eNotate system, which was a Dell PDA.  I also still own and was last using a PlyCounter, first generation.

I have used a Monroi enough to know how they work as well.

Without a doubt, this Chessnoter is the best electronic score keeping device to date.

The screen is larger with the touch screen, using a finger instead of a stylus, it is a lot easier to input moves than the other devices with smaller screens and the need to use an old style stylus.

The Motorola unit also has the best battery life of those mentioned.

Being a modified device, there is the consideration of needing to somehow lock the device so it can not be used as a chess engine or communicating device.  The other in this category was eNotate.  With the eNotate Sevan Muradian had it such that the program blocked all the device's other apps from running while the game moves were being put in.  In order to use the device's other programs you had to end the game.

In this ChessNoter device, Joey actually reprograms the complete device, removing any and all the phone options and apps.  The only thing left is the skeleton operating system and the Chessnoter program.  For instance the sound is completely removed and defeated.

What Joey has done is to take over the device and make it a dedicated Chess score keeping device as the PlyCounter and Monroi are.

I have used this device in 2 of our local, Monday evening rated tournaments and find it excellent to use.  As I look at it and remember that I still have a PlyCounter device I really do not see myself ever wanting to use the PlyCounter again.