Chronos clock display missing pixels

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Taffa64
My chronos was stored in a basement for the last few months. Now when turned on some pixels are missing (blank) in display. I changed the battery but it did not fix the problem. Anyone has ever experienced this problem? And how did you fix it?
rmanthony
I recently experienced that problem with my Chronos. I don’t know whether it can be fixed and, if it can be fixed, where to bring it.
ventudius

Buy a DGT clock

Taffa64

Update: I fixed it. Here's how: turned out Chronos clocks dont like to be stored in cold/damp places. I opened the case and used a hair dryer to warm it up. Now it is working perfectly.  Lesson learned,  dont store Chronos is basement for long. happy.png

 

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Taffa64

@ventudius why buy DGT plastic crap when I can still buy Chronos? Chronos are the best chess clocks ever made imo. Had this one for over 10 years now. DGT is crap. 

ventudius

I guess your laptop, phone and everything else that has a plastic casing is crap as well then. A DGT clock will last you a life time as long as you don't hammerfist it after every move. But then again neither would your 80's tech Chronos. A metal housing does absolutely nothing for reliabillity (as demonstrated by your clock), only makes the clock heavier. DGT is Fide approved, isn't a pain in the a$$ to program, has more options and can be connected to an e-board.

Taffa64

@ventudius I play a lot of Blitz and bullet at my local coffee shop with rough players. DGT isn't for Blitz and faster time controls. It will not handle a lot of pounding in time scrambles. I owned a DGT 2000 before and got broken within months. My friends owns DGT North America. It is loose now too from the pounding. There is nothing like the Chronos. Built like a tank.

mfelzien

From what I have read low batteries can also cause a similar problem.

Taffa64

@mfelzien Thanks. The problem was moister. Fixed it.

Taffa64

@ventudius Chronos is easier to program than DGT. Also easier to reset time ( 2 clicks of red button in middle) , where with DGT you have to flip the clock over, turn it OFF and ON after every single game just to reset it.

ventudius
Taffa64 schreef:

@ventudius I play a lot of Blitz and bullet at my local coffee shop with rough players. DGT isn't for Blitz and faster time controls. It will not handle a lot of pounding in time scrambles. I owned a DGT 2000 before and got broken within months. My friends owns DGT North America. It is loose now too from the pounding. There is nothing like the Chronos. Built like a tank.

 

Not sure what you're talking about. DGT clocks are used at every major blitz tournament.

 

 

The notion that Chronos are easier to program than DGT clocks is nothing short of laughable. And like I said, the metal housing does absolutly nothing for reliabillity. DGT's rocker design has become the industry standard. Any clock that has gimmicky sensors is a big no-no, especially when playing blitz or bullet.

Taffa64

Just because corrupt FIDE has a deal with DGT doesn't mean DGT makes the best chess clock out there. Go ahead play 100 games of 1 min chess on your DGT and see what happens. 

ventudius

Nothing will happen. Do you know why the rocker is superior to buttons when playing fast time controls? Also there's a very good reason why the reset button is on the bottom of the clock. DGT actually thought their designs through and that's why they landed a contract with Fide.

Taffa64

@ventudius dude my Chronos is over 10 years old. It has been put through the ringer. I've played thousands and thousands of blitz and bullet games in all New York city parks. Never glitched. It took moister getting inside of it for the display to glitch. Fix was easy when I googled it. There is no way that plastic monstrosity called DGT will withstand that kind of abuse.

ventudius

Ok, I will explain to you why the rocker is superior. With the rocker, not only is there a larger surface than with a small button, so you can't miss. But there can never be any confusion who's turn it is and who's side of the clock is running.

The last 10 seconds of a blitzgame, things are hectic and moves are being played extremely fast. Lets pretend everything is happening in super slomo. What happens when black makes a move, but fails to stop the clock on his side, because in all the hectic he missed the button? However, before he has a chance to hit it again, white who has anticipated blacks move and his reply to it, has already pressed the button on his side. Blacks is too late to hit the button for a second time, white has already beat him to the punch.. White notices black stopping the clock on his side again (and this time actuallly doing so), but now without making a move. White instantly knows what's going on. What a mess. This brief moment of confusion can completely ruin a game. Even when one side is just a little slow, again when there's massive time pressure and things are hectic, it can happen that both sides hit the button almost simultaniously. And again, causing confusion.

With DGT's rocker design all of this isn't possible. Not only from a visual perspective, but even more so from a tactile perspective. You can't hit your side of the rocker if your opponent hasn't done so on his side, simply because the rocker on your end will be dead. There never can be no confusion who's turn it is and who's side of the clock is running.

The reset button on the bottom of the clock is a classic case of better safe than sorry. Is is possible that some clutz presess the reset button excidently when it's on top or the front of the clock? I don't know. All I know is that by putting the reset button recessed on the bottom of the clock, this will never, ever happen. We call this idiot proof. Very important that the clock keeps running during a professional chess match at all costs.

This is why DGT is the choice for professional chess matches. A chronos with buttons, nevermind sensors, is vastly inferior. Like you said, a clock for having a game at the coffee shop.

Taffa64

I can list 10s of professional tournaments played with Chronos too. Even Kasparov-Amand 1995 World championship was played with Chronos clock. You can check it out on Youtune. Another one that comes to mind is Intel 1993 challenge here an amazing endgame between Kaspy- Kramnik ...etc. Unfortunately,  Chronos are no longer made, and the owner of the patent refused to sell it.  I will continue to use them until I cant get my hand on one anymore. 

ventudius

Well, it's human nature to improve things. To be more efficient, and to rule out error as much as possible.

Rocker > Buttons. Especially in games with fast time controls. A very clever and elegant solution.

Taffa64

In America, Chronos still reign supreme. When you go to an open chess tournament,  out of all clocks, 80+% are Chronos.  And for a good reason. Don't know about the rest of the world. Rockers are a solution to a problem that wasn't even there to begin with imo. 

Taffa64

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