Dubrovnik and Zagreb Comparison

That's very interesting Frank. I assumed Zagreb had something to do with a Fisher era tournament there.

there have been lengthy discussions about this in the past here, and nobody has been able to produce any photographic evidence from any tournament of a set that the "Zagreb" is based on. I could be wrong, of course, but I'm pretty sure it's because there is no such set. HoS calls it "a stunning reproduction of one of the most popular chess sets used in the major international Chess tournaments during the 1950s and 1960s" but they have never shown any photographic evidence of that supposed set either. 

Mind you, it doesn't particularly matter, and invented provenance or not, it's a good-looking set.

Here Ya Go Kim...

http://fishburn.me/chess/sets/zagreb-59/

Robb - this site simply repeats the HoS claims with no evidence. There was a thread here a while back where someone posted pics from that tournament and the set used looked nothing like the Zagreb...

http://en.chessbase.com/post/former-fide-president-fridrik-olafon-turns-75

Here's a pic of many ... Got me... But you be the judges :)

I would think someone whom actually played in the Zagreb 59 Tournament could clear this matter up? Someone still living should know for sure I would think.?

if you are referring to the pic from Bled 61, the only thing that picture clearly shows is that the bishops were the only pieces that had opposite colour tops...

Here's Fischer playing in Zagreb 59. You tell me. You can't really maker out any details for sure other than - only bishops have reverse colour top, not K/Q.

Kim.... Notice the King has the cross as well I believe...

Hi John, its funny you say that, But the more I look at and play with the CB Dubrovnik, the more I like the CB Knights better than the Noj Knights. I also have both sets.

Hi Robb:

This info in this link appears to be bogus.

Ain't we a couple of heretics?

You betcha John!!

Here is a pic from the candidates tournament in 1959, Zagreb, from which these sets are supposedly based on. Very hard to tell from the pic. The knight does look like it could be the same form.

There are other photographs of the players and chess sets in the 1959 Candidates tournament held in Bled, Zagreb, and Belgrade, Yugoslavia, mostly, if not all, from the book of the tournament by Svetozar Gligoric and Viacheslav Ragozin. The chess sets seen are fairly clearly of the "Dubrovnik I" pattern introduced at the 1950 Dubrovnik Olympiad, as a number of the photographs are of considerably higher resolution than the one above. A Google search should turn up these photographs.

Chess sets of the "Dubrovinik" design can also be seen in photographs of the 1958 Portoroz Interzonal tournament in Yugoslavia, and the very strong 1961 tournament in Bled, Yugoslavia. A Google search should produce those photographs as well.

There is no evidence of any "Zagreb" design chess sets ever existing until fairly recently. Vendors claiming that the "Zagreb" chess set design is one that dates from the late 1950s, without evidence, does not make it true, no matter how often they iterate the same unsupported false claim.

LOVE the sweater .... 

Yes. Quite clearly the Dubrovnik 1950 design, although this set looks as if it might be larger sized than the ones used at the 1950 Olympiad.

Yes from that shot there's no doubt. So who exactly started the lie?

I think that The House of Staunton was the first retailer to offer a set in 2001 that they called "Zagreb". Since then, there have been numerous variants of that design from many retailers, dubbed variously, "Zagreb", "Yugoslav", "Russian", etc..

Wow. Not cool. Or necessary - I'm sure that many would still buy the set without the false advertising.