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Minarima wrote:

I wouldn't confuse the antique/vintage chess market with the market for sets made new today. Just look at the current Jaques line up on their website, which attempts to create sets of equal quality to old but fails miserably.

Indeed, but the old Jaques sets are intricately made and quite delicate, whereas these sets are so crude that they should be easy to reproduce accurately.

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IpswichMatt you are right.

But the strange thing is, no manufacturer is currently making a knight that is even close to the beauty of the B210 Knights!

Antique Jaques are elegant and beautiful, but there is beauty in simplicity and functionality.

The vintage Chavet sets were both!

I have in my collection, very high quality reproductions of Jaques and a ”Chavropa” (see Ronbo’s ”Chavet Purists Forgive Me”) that I had a woodcarver add weight to.

The ”Chavropa” pieces weigh 52 ounces now.

The Jaques pieces stay at home on an elegant chess table surrounded by leather wingback chairs; snobby English club looking decor, some would say.

The 3.75” Chavet (really a Chavropa) goes everywhere!

Chess Club, coffee shops, tournaments, it stays in my car and it is what I play 90% of my chess on.

It’s much nicer than plastic but I don’t worry about it getting damaged.

I get compliments on it all the time and “Where can I get that chess set?”

The pieces are designed for play and are incredibly  tough.

I have dropped them a few times but no damage so far, thank god.

If I was a billionaire I’d probably own lots of Jaques antique sets (like Crumiller) but I bet I’d play most my chess with a Chavet B210!

That is if I could find one, lol.

 

 

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@UthorPendragon, I agree about the chavet knights - they are a very elegant design even though they are simple. They look correct.

I have a few Jaques sets and I know what you mean about needing to be careful with them, especially as I share my house with an unruly cat, who seems to have no respect for chess sets or anything else of value.

I'd just be a bit concerned if I owned an expensive Chavet set that if anyone started making reproductions, the repros might be almost indistinguishable from the originals.

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IpswichMatt wrote:

@UthorPendragon, I agree about the chavet knights - they are a very elegant design even though they are simple. They look correct.

I have a few Jaques sets and I know what you mean about needing to be careful with them, especially as I share my house with an unruly cat, who seems to have no respect for chess sets or anything else of value.

I'd just be a bit concerned if I owned an expensive Chavet set that if anyone started making reproductions, the repros might be almost indistinguishable from the originals.

Couldn't agree more happy.png. I think Chavet had the coolest knights in the stable. Here's my B-210 (left) and B-212 (right) knights side by side. The B-212 Pieces are (for the most part) larger than the B-210 all except for the knights. They are only slightly larger. The B-212 was the Kasparov - Kramnik 2000 WCC set in case some didn't know.  null

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Great acquisition, Ronbo, I was wondering if you had the detailed sizes and weights of the B-210 and the Europa pieces. I guess the weight is different, since it seems the Europa is not weighted at all, right? But apart from that, I'm not even sure about the king's height or whether the rooks' base are the same. Count me among those who don't understand why replicas of the B-210 are not being made.

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frayservando wrote:

Great acquisition, Ronbo, I was wondering if you had the detailed sizes and weights of the B-210 and the Europa pieces. I guess the weight is different, since it seems the Europa is not weighted at all, right? But apart from that, I'm not even sure about the king's height or whether the rooks' base are the same. Count me among those who don't understand why replicas of the B-210 are not being made.

Hi - I'll get the Europa set out and do a weight/comparison with the B-210 Chavet when I get home. I am pretty sure the Europa is weighted, Back Soon happy.png