It’s almost 2021. Shouldn’t consumers be able to dictate the pieces that they want in their sets a la cart without breaking the bank? I know that NOJ offers this option To some extent with theIr BCE offering. Which Knight? Which Rook? Want additional Bishops? Eastern or Western? Stage 1, 2 or 3 for the additional pieces?
“How Much Is That Knight In The Window?”
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sound67 wrote:
The HoS plastic Collector's set looks awesome, until you see it for real (see my reviews on plastic sets). Blotches on many pieces, which, credit where credit is due, they replaced without fuss. Didn't have those issues with any of their Masrshall, Hastings, or Zurich sets. Quality control seems to be lacking, but they're cheap.
@sound67 - I enjoyed the series of review you did, covering most of the major tournament sized plastic pieces. If I am correct, you praised the Legend Alegria as the best among them. Unfortunately, their shipping cost is outrageous. I still cannot justisfy myself paying more than 100 USD for plastic pieces. Might as well get a wooden set at such price range.
@MCH818 - Thanks for the closeup photo of blood rosewood and East Indian rosewood. They both look wonderful with beautiful grain. Sorry to hear about the bubbles on your board. If I were you, I would sand them down and spray with clear lacquer.
Eyechess wrote:
This is what mine looks like.
@Eyechess - Your HoS Morphy 4.0” in Rosewood is stunning. If you ever get bored with it, let me know. I can put together a few sets which you don't have for trade. Come over to the dark side ;-)
MCH818 wrote:
@Eyechess Is your Morphy this version?
That is the picture of HoS where the white and the black pieces do not match. Black are the "Morphy" set. White is something altogether different. I could not identify them. Sloppy that they still keep that picture uncorrected.
Nov 2, 2020
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#28
I care about details. I just can't justify the need to spend hundreds of dollars to get a set similar with maybe a slight variation. Look Eyechess the more you promote high dollar sets. The more you look like you are a NOJ and HoS promoter and it brings into question what benefits you get for doing so. It's time to stop this nonsense with chess sets. If you want to pay higher prices. That's your business and enjoy your purchases. However there are players who refuse to pay for a set. Where the increase looks more like you are paying for the name and not the quality. Dude you are an adult. Start acting like one and put an end to this chess set price fighting. We all play chess and whatever set you choose is good enough for me. Personally the House of Staunton business model is a dying business. If HoS wants to be competitive. They should open up their own factory in India and sell direct like RCM, The Chess Empire, CB, etc...
Nov 2, 2020
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#29
C'mon Knightsfork! You are way off base here! Just because Eyechess likes some sets that are expensive,doesn't mean he's promoting a company,or getting something out of it...Sheesh!
First off,he's an eye doctor....He can afford to indulge himself,like you or I can if so inclined.
What's the problem?
Look at post #30......He specificaly states that he looks for sales and likes the idea of saving on a set,like all of us.....I,myself,am waiting for Black Friday to get a somewhat pricey set....It's my business and nobody else's.
I'm not trying to vilify you,but we pretty much have a comanality,in appreciating and collecting(to a degree) chess related stuff....Some of it is more costly than others,but if someone likes to talk up something that is expensive,I don't ever feel like they're putting their hand in my pocket!
We like to talk up our prizes.....It's done on numerous websites....No biggie!
Btw,I love the Knights pictured in post #23
Nov 2, 2020
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#30
magictwanger wrote:
C'mon Knightsfork! You are way off base here! Just because Eyechess likes some sets that are expensive,doesn't mean he's promoting a company,or getting something out of it...Sheesh!
First off,he's an eye doctor....He can afford to indulge himself,like you or I can if so inclined.
What's the problem?
Look at post #30......He specificaly states that he looks for sales and likes the idea of saving on a set,like all of us.....I,myself,am waiting for Black Friday to get a somewhat pricey set....It's my business and nobody else's.
I'm not trying to vilify you,but we pretty much have a comanality,in appreciating and collecting(to a degree) chess related stuff....Some of it is more costly than others,but if someone likes to talk up something that is expensive,I don't ever feel like they're putting their hand in my pocket!
We like to talk up our prizes.....It's done on numerous websites....No biggie!
No I am not. I like nice sets and I know that he does too. I do not like the fact that he puts other players down for buying cheaper alternatives. He comes around here and says that the cheaper set in poor quality just because you pay a cheaper price for it. This is unacceptable snobbish behavior I do not stand for period!
May be it the wrong kind of time to indulge on your many chess set .
with covid 19 & america health insurance not wise time to keep pushing for high price
remakes on chess set .
When most people just trying too pay bills or make ends meet etc / feeding there kids etc .
being a Doctor one should know better !
At somepoint it's just the same old Noj / Hos / thread .
Which becomes just decadent .
Nov 2, 2020
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#33
KnightsForkCafe wrote:
I care about details. I just can't justify the need to spend hundreds of dollars to get a set similar with maybe a slight variation. Look Eyechess the more you promote high dollar sets. The more you look like you are a NOJ and HoS promoter and it brings into question what benefits you get for doing so. It's time to stop this nonsense with chess sets. If you want to pay higher prices. That's your business and enjoy your purchases. However there are players who refuse to pay for a set. Where the increase looks more like you are paying for the name and not the quality. Dude you are an adult. Start acting like one and put an end to this chess set price fighting. We all play chess and whatever set you choose is good enough for me. Personally the House of Staunton business model is a dying business. If HoS wants to be competitive. They should open up their own factory in India and sell direct like RCM, The Chess Empire, CB, etc...
What an idiot you are.
You are wrong about what I have said and everything else. You also are a proven liar.
Keep calm and carry on.
Nov 2, 2020
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#34
KnightsForkCafe wrote:
magictwanger wrote:
C'mon Knightsfork! You are way off base here! Just because Eyechess likes some sets that are expensive,doesn't mean he's promoting a company,or getting something out of it...Sheesh!
First off,he's an eye doctor....He can afford to indulge himself,like you or I can if so inclined.
What's the problem?
Look at post #30......He specificaly states that he looks for sales and likes the idea of saving on a set,like all of us.....I,myself,am waiting for Black Friday to get a somewhat pricey set....It's my business and nobody else's.
I'm not trying to vilify you,but we pretty much have a comanality,in appreciating and collecting(to a degree) chess related stuff....Some of it is more costly than others,but if someone likes to talk up something that is expensive,I don't ever feel like they're putting their hand in my pocket!
We like to talk up our prizes.....It's done on numerous websites....No biggie!
No I am not. I like nice sets and I know that he does too. I do not like the fact that he puts other players down for buying cheaper alternatives. He comes around here and says that the cheaper set in poor quality just because you pay a cheaper price for it. This is unacceptable snobbish behavior I do not stand for period!
And the lying and idiocy continues.
The poor quality sets are that because they are of lower quality. It happens that one company producing sets with real and measurable lower standards and quality is also cheaper in price. You get what you pay for.
You are pretty much the only person I am putting down here. There are a number of reasons. You really need to fix your grammar, poor writing. You continue to lie about what I say and you say insulting, attacking and wrong things about me. You are showing yourself as a true idiot.
Nov 2, 2020
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#35
sound67 wrote:
I think eyechess' (over-)veneration for certain companies and people (Camaratta) is very obvious, but I would not claim not he's doing it for material gains. Maybe he's getting a discount on his next NOJ set.
Actually, I am done buying Chess sets at this time, so I am.not looking for any special discount.
Take things individually. Camaratta has done excellent work. This you cannot deny.
Noj puts out excellent products. Many agree with this all on their own.
I now have been saying that Chess Bazaar and Chess Empire do excellent work. Are you now going to say I am promoting them?
Nov 2, 2020
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#36
coffeehouse_chess_1 wrote:
I don’t understand why someone buys dozens of reproductions whether they are expensive or cheap. I understand if someone is a collector and buys antique or vintage sets. These sets will always have collector's value. I also understand that the player buys a nice and expensive or les expensive set that he will use for the game. Or maybe 2-3 sets. But 30-40 sets for casual chess play? Maybe for a simultaneous games hahahah?
Someone may want a reproduction for sentimental or historical reasons and because the originals can be so rare and/or expensive making them inaccessible.
There are cases were some people have taken time and effort to bring a set back into production that would otherwise disappear. Think of the 1961 Soviet Championship Tal set researched and designed by CGRAU et al and produced by Noj. I expect other companies may have copied the pieces produced by Noj. I appreciate what CGRAU and Noj have done and have this set to honour that tradition. Reproductions like this can be considered art or historically significant because of how they came to be.
Nov 2, 2020
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#37
coffeehouse_chess_1 wrote:
I don’t understand why someone buys dozens of reproductions whether they are expensive or cheap. I understand if someone is a collector and buys antique or vintage sets. These sets will always have collector's value. I also understand that the player buys a nice and expensive or les expensive set that he will use for the game. Or maybe 2-3 sets. But 30-40 sets for casual chess play? Maybe for a simultaneous games hahahah?
Just because you do not understand this does not make it wrong, hahaha.
There are times I want to use a smaller setup with a 2.0” board. I have 2 or 3 sets for this to choose from.
There are times a larger set is better, a 2.38” or 2.5” board. Once again, I have a few sets in this area for my preference of play type and design.
I have a good number of sets that work on a 2.25” board. Some are nicer to use in very slow time controls. Some are just a bit better for slightly quicker play. And some are great for casual and faster play.
In all instances I really enjoy using different sets at different times.
I buy sets that play best. Reproductions are great and arguably better than a lot of originals.
I bet that I do not have more money invested in my reproductions than people have in their originals that are much higher priced,
This is such a weird argument over really basic market logic. I am glad for all the useful information that happens in between that weirdness.
Nov 2, 2020
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#39
sound67 wrote:
Turns out you don't know squad about anything. Squad btw is a euphemism.
Turns out you actually know squat about anything, yourself. And squat by the way, is a euphemism. I don’t know of any euphemistic use for the word, squad.
I like this one ! it a POA still really nice & from
Jaques Staunton Club Chessmen & Box
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