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JesscasWhale

I think Bronco70's was also a match.

DejaVux

The case of the missing molds

In On Chess

6:36 am on Wed, 07.24.13

Considering the escalation of tension over depleting oil reserves, I’m seriously concerned with the level of meltdown America will encounter as we run dangerously low on intellectual reserves.

I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but the United States is running out of chess pieces.

The Chess Club and Scholastic Center of Saint Louis stocks much of its inventory – specifically its pieces – through American Chess Equipment, a wholesale supplier out of Anaheim, Calif. Several months ago, however, those pieces stopped coming in – and the dark whispers of rumor began to swirl.

The fate of the Ultimate weighted chess set, featuring a signature look and feel, is unclear.The fate of the Ultimate weighted chess set, featuring a signature look and feel, is unclear.

A minor problem easily solved, you say, but understand the concerned level of which I speak. These pieces are known as the Ultimate chess set, and they are the quintessential choice when playing with plastic. Black pieces on one side, and not-white opposing: The yellow cream that opened a game provided a unique and instantly identifiable look to chess halls across America.

And these superior pieces are even more special on the inside. Over the years, players have found that tactics aren’t the only thing that affect their pieces: Outdoor players have had many a game literally blown up by the wind, and the fast-flying moves of a blitz player have seen too many pieces knocked over to count. To combat these extra-particulars of chess, it became commonplace to insert weights within the pieces.

This, of course, merely gave us chess nerds something else to obsess over. Single weights obviously needed to be one-upped, while double-weighted pieces didn’t always seem to cut the mustard. And quadruple-weighted sets? Let’s not get carried away.

No, the Ultimate sets became the cream of the crop of the triple-weighted pieces, finding a perfect harmony of density and balance. For more than a decade, they have become the unofficial industry standard: Referring to a set as triple-weighted meant you were speaking of the Ultimate set. And helping to secure its notoriety was an internal design quirk that kept the weights from rattling loose as quickly as other inferior sets, many that just jammed weights inside with glue and covered with a piece of felt.

“They just had a great feel to them, just a great design,” said American Chess Equipment owner Shelby Lohrman, the United States’ sole distributor of the Ultimate set. “Really chunky pawns, and the knights had a good look – not too big or ugly. The set could handle the abuse of blitz, but it was also nice-looking enough to keep out in the house. Before I became a wooden-set snob, all I would play with was the Ultimate set.”

But Lohrman received bad news upon his last order to create more Ultimate pieces. Or, more accurately, he received no news. After 15 years of production, the Taiwanese plastics factory that produced the Ultimate sets just simply stopped responding to any of Lohrman’s inquires – and soon after, desperate pleas – for a resupply.

He tried recruiting the help of previous owner Dewain Barber, credited with the design of the mold used to produce the sets, but to no avail. About 25 unresponded to e-mails and half-dozen unanswered phone calls later, Lohrman sent another Taiwanese supplier to check things out: The plastics factory was now a hotel, and the sales office, a strip mall.

A vanishing act, indeed, but of most concern was the disappearance of that mold – which had cost Barber $15,000 to create, back in a time when discretionary income was a bit easier to come by.

“I would have paid $5,000 for someone just to pack up the mold and send it to me,” Lohrman said. “If I had that mold, we could find another plastics company in Mexico or India and have them produced again in a month. It was our mold anyway. We paid for it, but to try to find it in a place like Taiwain ... no, we’re never going to get that thing back.”

Now, the U.S. chess scene is knocking on Lohrman’s door for more of the beloved triple-weights, and he can do little more than shrug his shoulders. Ultimate set prices have skyrocketed around the Internet, hitting prices on eBay for upward of $50 a pop – nearly tripling their original cost. And those who need more than just a set or two – such as Alex Marler, manager of the Chess Club and Scholastic Center of Saint Louis – are completely out of luck.

“I’ve looked around for surplus to buy,” Marler said. “No one is selling them. None of the big distributors has anything. I found one guy on Amazon who wanted a couple hundred bucks for 10 sets. We have to replace 150 sets in the club.”

Sadly, this column does not come with a happy ending. Lohrman says he has restarted the process, already having found a Mexican plastics company that could turnaround his orders even faster than Taiwan. He is in the process of getting laser measurements done on an existing set to produce a CAD-design and recreate the mold – but the cost to make another mold bears a heavy weight.

And until that happens, for the rest of us, it bears a triple weight on our hearts.

“We’re going to cry a lot of tears if we have to replace the Ultimate set,” Marler said.


https://www.stlbeacon.org/#!/content/32012/on_chess_missing_molds_072313

Bronco

Thank you for the article

boomerlives

Has anyone played with the wood version of these pieces?

http://www.amchesseq.com/24ropitrwe33.html

penglung_xiong

Anyone wants to buy the Ultimate Chess Set?  I am looking to sell mine.  They are out of stock every where.  PM me.   

BigLew

Yes, it is the ACE ultimate set. I have it with blue and yellow pieces. Used to be common when Dwane Barber owned ACE. American even offers a wood version of the set. The set is ugly but it is nice and heavy and plays well. But wears out with lots of use. Weights get loose and rattle, the plastic gets scared up, and if a King hits the floor the fenial will break off. But a good set for Blitz. Most places sold it for $30 ACE sold if for $15.

I

Very common at my the chess club wear I play most players there use it. But their weights are loose. I never really liked it b/c I think the knights look like a cartoon, and it has fat pawns and skinny rooks. I think pawns should be skinny and the rooks (a.k.a. Hogs or pigs) should be fat. That's why I used to use a Drueke (new style) and now an HOS Marshal plastic b/c those sets have skinny pawns and fat rooks. I switched from the Drueke to the Marshal for the extra queens.

ROBB_CHESS

Looks like my Plastic R-II Hos set...

BigLew

Dude the HOS The Reykjavik Series Plastic Chessmen - 3.75" King weighs in at only slightly less than 2-1/2 lbs at 38oz. These ACE Ultimate triple weighted chessmen are 3-1/2 lbs or 56oz. An 18 oz difference! Not the same, eventhough there are some similarities in appearance, look at the knight and pawns much different.

ROBB_CHESS

Who cares, it's plastic. I just use em outside on a rainy day anyway, then I throw them away like an empty lighter...

BigLew

Yep!

Ace_Club

I have a set of the Ultimate Chess pieces and they are by far my favorite plastic set. (Thanks to DejaVux for the article, as I had been recently wondering why everyone was backordered on these pieces)

As for the wooden Ultimate Chess pieces from ACE, I emailed them last week regarding stock and haven't heard back from them yet. An aside, the "New Classic Series" wooden pieces from Chess Cafe is very similar to the Ultimate Chess piece design.

kenardi

Has anyone seen/received updated info on this set?  Will they be manufactured again?

http://www.amchesseq.com/21ulsettwe35.html

kenardi

Seems the wood pieces are not available either:

http://www.amchesseq.com/wochpi.html

ghillan

Hey guys,

I know its not what you are looking for, but if your aim its just to get a good & cheap weighted plastic set, you could look at this one:

http://www.regencychess.co.uk/conqueror-weighted-staunton-chess-pieces-4-inches-plastic-p-1071.html

The design its not rejkiavik, ( infact its a conqueror design), but its nice, cheap and quite heavy weighted ( king weight=65g )

kenardi

@ghillan - here is the same set available in USA, much cheaper shipping.

very heavy set, but the pieces are too large for a standard 2 1/4 inch square, you would need a larger board.

http://www.uscfsales.com/chess-pieces/plastic-chess-pieces/the-fischer-series-plastic-chessmen-4-0-king.html

ghillan

Yep you are right, i have a 2 3/8 board and its just ok, probably a 2 1/2 would be better. Could be good to find a 3 3/4 set with the same design, i didn't found it.

 

My link was EU based, since i live there, but i was more pointing to the design  than the seller, as when you find a design , there are always several sources where you can purchase it.

kenardi

@ghillan - 2 3/8 should be okay for that set... I was pointing out the different store, here in the USA, because they are not named the same, but obviously the same design.

ROBB_CHESS

Here ya go...

http://millionairechess.com/product/millionaire-chess-pieces/

Or ya can call HOS... Great plastic set...

kenardi

http://amchesseq.com/Ultimate-Chess-Set--Triple-Weighted--3-58-King_p_76.html

penglung_xiong

amchesseq does not sell it anymore.  That site is out of date.