Looks slightly cheaper than the Pegasus at €199, but you think that is only a pre-order price?
https://webshoparea.de/detail/index/sArticle/258
Pegasus is €259
Interesting that the Pegasus think they will get Apple App approval, but Millenium only showing Android for the E-One. At the time of writing DGT do not have an Apple app which is worrying as my Pegasus is due for delivery today.
Millennium E-One online board
I really hope the Millenium E-ONe is a success. Although there is the DGT pegasus and Square Off Pro, I imagine the quality of the German made Millenium would be superior. Fingers Crossed that this product becomes available soon.
Truthfully the size of the board is not as important as having a quality product in terms of hardware and software interaction. The playing experience matters most to me.
To illustrate my point look in the forums for Square Off Pro? and DGT Pegasus? to read about issues concerning the playing experience with those products..
I‘ve ordered the o-one with the early bird discount so it‘s nearly 100€ less than the Pegasus. I hope the interaction with chess.com and Lichess is more stable - even on iOS. Wondering why here is no bigger discussion about the e-One, there must be prototypes around here and I‘m looking forward to some new videos or threads e-one vs Pegasus.
Since the e-One is using an established system for online play, I'm guessing It should work well with Chess.com and Lichess from the start. Though at this time iOS will only work with Lichess since Chess.com play is determined by their app, and not the Millennium chess app. If the e-One integrates as well as the Genius Exclusive does, it should be a nice system.
I think size is the only thing that may hinder it's success. A 24cm (9.44") wide playing field will likely be a deal breaker for some people. It's too bad they didn't make the playing area the fill the entire board area like it does on the Pegasus or Centaur. I think that would have been a good compromise between portability and playability. That being said, I couldn't resist the pre-release discount price so I went ahead and ordered one for myself. So much for waiting for a real world comparison. ![]()
I read that since the Magnus Investment Group owns Chess24 and commercially works with Millennium that using Millennium computers will work seamlessly on their site.
Gotta love capitalism and competition! That means there are more choices for us consumers and the manufacturers have to step up the quality of their products to win our purchase!
An interesting video about Eone Millenium : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p1LPSj72qOk&t=936s
If delivered as advertised (I saw it via email notice at this vendor):
Key criteria for me have been met with this device:
- Changeable battery
- Compatible with iOS and Mac OS devices
- Relatively portable
Does the device allow for software updates, and if so via what means.
One modification I would prefer is a clock display on both sides of the board, so you don't have to look away to see where you stand time-wise. Minor, to be sure, and I recognize that you have to look away in a face-to-face tournament with a real board, but still, I want it, as I feel it facilitates online play.
Another modification I would prefer is complete independence from 3rd party devices, i.e. direct connection to the internet via WiFi. I suspect this will never happen; it is much more cost effective for the manufacturer to leverage the connection and compatibility issues already offered by a PC/laptop/smartphone.
@ chessroboto - What would be truly useful is if FIDE created a manufacturing standard for these devices to ensure compatibility with all online playing services that use the FIDE ratings. A universe standard would truly level the field for more competition between both electronic board manufacturers and online playing services and would thus be better for all of us end users.
Millennium lists a user replaceable battery as one of the features on their order page (though not on the general description page.)
I'm guessing compatibility with Mac OS devices is always going to be a stretch from just about anyone. While I don't have much personal experience with Mac OS, Millennium products are compatible with HIARCS so you do have at least that option.
I do have experience with HIARCS for iPad, and it has always worked well with my MCGE. The Millennium chess app is now available for iOS, so you can play on Lichess now. I've installed the app on my iPad, but to be honest I've never used it because I always use my Android device to play there since it's already set up with the API. I can understand why software developers may be hesitant to put the effort into Mac OS programs, but with the prevalence of iPhones and iPads, iOS compatibility should be a given.
Given the size of the e-One, it will definitely be the most portable of the on-line boards available, though that will always be a matter of personal preference.
I heartily agree with the desire for independence from 3rd party devices (and Apps too!) I really hate the current trend of holding consumers hostage to an app. That's one of the things that I really value about my MCGE. The need for cables and cords is not ideal, but it is a truly self contained system, so as long as the hardware works, I have everything I need to use it.
Personally the reliance on an app is not an issue provided the people responsible for the app offer a polished reliable application. Hiarcs for example has over the Years offered a great user experience.
I just saw this and color me intrigued! I was thinking about getting the Pegasus but I might have to wait to see how the E-One works when it comes out.
Not sure if anyone will know this but, do you have to push down on the pieces when you move them like on other Millennium boards?
I would speculate for the price the E-One will sell for you will have to press the pieces on the board. But, I believe you can use the more expensive piece recognition board and piece sets to play online as well.
I think you speculate incorrectly. It is metal with a felt covering.
https://www.chess-international.com/?p=49467
I was speculating that the E-One will require pressing the pieces on the board. The article johnnyduval linked refers to the experience of pressing pieces on the board referred to as a haptic experience.
" I was speculating that the E-One will require pressing the pieces on the board."
and I am saying if you read the article you do NOT need to press the pieces on the board. It says it used metal as the conductive material - therefore nothing to do with pushing pieces on a board.
Otherwise there would be no need to use a metal conductive material - if you only need to push they could be made from plastic or wood etc.
I popped over to Schachversand Niggemann to check on the availability of the DGT Pegasus and I saw a listing for what appears to be Millennium’s equivalent online board slated to be released in January ‘22. It seems pretty well featured though it’s a bit smaller than the Pegasus. There’s a preorder special at the moment but it will sell for the same price as the Pegasus.
I’ve had my on the Pegasus ever since I learned of it, but I think I’ll hold off a bit and see how the DGT and Millennium boards compare when released. Between these boards and the Square Off Pro, it’s great to have all these options at attractive prices.
https://computerchess.com/en/eone-2/