My experience with Chess Bazaar

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lighthouse
sound67 wrote:

No, most are solid wood. I've got a bud rosewood solid 21" CB board, from my fist order. 

 Sound Which boards to you have that are solid wood ? Do you know which one's are of the veneer kind ?

As board price's are all over the price range , on ebay !

forked_again

That's Royal chess mall, not chess bazaar.  

Here is a quote from the Cess bazaar website:

Our chess boards made from the inlaid exotic woods such as ebonyrosewoodsheesham, and bud rosewood are truly a work of art just like our chess pieces

I added the bold to the word inlaid.  Inlaid means veneer.  Chess Bazaar also used to have an info box on the benefits of veneer boards, but I don't see that any more.  

As for Royal Chess mall, I'm suspicious.  They call the board "all wood".  A Wood veneer on top of a plywood or even particle board base would still be "all wood".  The RCM board looks almost identical to CBs.  I would guess they are the same and they are veneer.  

The fact that the RCM board has a completely felted bottom is also suspicious.  A solid board basically looks the same on the bottom as it does on the top, and there is no reason to hide it.  It looks like the felt is hiding the particle board base.

lighthouse
forked_again wrote:

That's Royal chess mall, not chess bazaar.  

Here is a quote from the Cess bazaar website:

Our chess boards made from the inlaid exotic woods such as ebonyrosewoodsheesham, and bud rosewood are truly a work of art just like our chess pieces

I added the bold to the word inlaid.  Inlaid means veneer.  Chess Bazaar also used to have an info box on the benefits of veneer boards, but I don't see that any more.  

As for Royal Chess mall, I'm suspicious.  They call the board "all wood".  A Wood veneer on top of a plywood or even particle board base would still be "all wood".  The RCM board looks almost identical to CBs.  I would guess they are the same and they are veneer.  

The fact that the RCM board has a completely felted bottom is also suspicious.  A solid board basically looks the same on the bottom as it does on the top, and there is no reason to hide it.  It looks like the felt is hiding the particle board base.

Forked ,

I think you are right here ! As the price is to good ? was looking at the 60mm board .

But do not like the tracky white strip makes it look cheap on the corners .

https://www.chessbazaar.com/wooden-chess-board-blood-red-bud-rose-wood-23-60-mm.html

And here the price on ebay uk

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/23-Bud-Rosewood-Maple-Wood-Signature-Wooden-Chessboard-with-60-mm-Square/173454163267?hash=item2862ac7d43:g:L0cAAOSwyhVca9dA

forked_again
lighthouse wrote:
forked_again wrote:

That's Royal chess mall, not chess bazaar.  

Here is a quote from the Cess bazaar website:

Our chess boards made from the inlaid exotic woods such as ebonyrosewoodsheesham, and bud rosewood are truly a work of art just like our chess pieces

I added the bold to the word inlaid.  Inlaid means veneer.  Chess Bazaar also used to have an info box on the benefits of veneer boards, but I don't see that any more.  

As for Royal Chess mall, I'm suspicious.  They call the board "all wood".  A Wood veneer on top of a plywood or even particle board base would still be "all wood".  The RCM board looks almost identical to CBs.  I would guess they are the same and they are veneer.  

The fact that the RCM board has a completely felted bottom is also suspicious.  A solid board basically looks the same on the bottom as it does on the top, and there is no reason to hide it.  It looks like the felt is hiding the particle board base.

Forked ,

I think you are right here ! As the price is to good ? was looking at the 60mm board .

But do not like the tracky white strip makes it look cheap on the corners .

https://www.chessbazaar.com/wooden-chess-board-blood-red-bud-rose-wood-23-60-mm.html

And here the price on ebay uk

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/23-Bud-Rosewood-Maple-Wood-Signature-Wooden-Chessboard-with-60-mm-Square/173454163267?hash=item2862ac7d43:g:L0cAAOSwyhVca9dA

True the price is more in line with veneer boards.  Probably best to ask the seller directly, but you'd have to be careful how you word it, as RCM is calling their board solid wood.  Is the top of the board a veneer, or is the board made up of solid squares of rosewood and maple, each square being the full thickness of the board?  

I think CB would be forthright about their veneer boards. and might even tell you the positive qualities of veneer boards (more warp resistant being one).  RCM on the other hand, I'm not so sure about.  It seems they are trying to be deceptive.  

magictwanger

I own 2 boards from C.B......One the higher end platform version and their priciest Spanish veneer model.I bought both when they were relatively low priced and on sale.....To be perfectly candid,I could not be happier.The quality has been superb and they look great....Just my 2 cents.

forked_again
magictwanger wrote:

I own 2 boards from C.B......One the higher end platform version and their priciest Spanish veneer model.I bought both when they were relatively low priced and on sale.....To be perfectly candid,I could not be happier.The quality has been superb and they look great....Just my 2 cents.

The CB boards look really nice, and veneer isn't necessarily a bad thing.  Lots of nice looking furniture and cabinets use veneers as well.  With some basic care of the board it can look beautiful for years to come.  

I am a bit disappointed with my HOS veneer board however, but really it is my own fault.  I had it on a patio table and left it there during a couple of snowstorms.  Snow got on it but I brushed it off.  Now, in the right light and looking at a low angle, you can see the edges of some of the squares are a little bit raised.  Its still a nice looking board and like I said a mostly unnoticable problem, except to me.  I'm thinking of doing a little sanding and refinishing with a thick clearcoat.

Anyway, an interesting fact about this board, which was advertized as veneer with no deception of course.  The bottom of the board looks like a clear grain sheet of maybe birch or maple plywood. 

But after my mistreatment of this board, a piece of the bottom chipped off, which turned out to be a veneer cover on the bottom as well, to cover particle board.  It isn't a plywood base as it appeared.  But whatever, it was a cheap board, I think around $120 and thats what you get at that price.  

So anyway, that's why I pointed out the 100% felt covering of the RCM board.  That seems to me to be the easiest and cheapest way to cover a particle board base product.  

magictwanger

The thing that has stood out regarding my particular veneer board is it's extreme stability and how perfectly straight it remains.From my experience with high end audio speakers and acoustic guitars,veneer is just fine,if properly designed into a product.Once again,it is only my personal opinion.

Mohan_Kumar_Chess

 

I think you are right here ! As the price is to good ? was looking at the 60mm board .

But do not like the tracky white strip makes it look cheap on the corners .


@lighthouse

This board don't have those white strips on the corners and no round edges.
https://www.chessbazaar.com/wooden-chess-board-blood-red-bud-rose-wood-23-60-mm-48.html?acc=b3e3e393c77e35a4a3f3cbd1e429b5dc

lighthouse
Mohan_Kumar_Chess wrote:

 

I think you are right here ! As the price is to good ? was looking at the 60mm board .

But do not like the tracky white strip makes it look cheap on the corners .


@lighthouse

This board don't have those white strips on the corners and no round edges.
https://www.chessbazaar.com/wooden-chess-board-blood-red-bud-rose-wood-23-60-mm-48.html?acc=b3e3e393c77e35a4a3f3cbd1e429b5dc

Thank's ! Now then this board is back at a silly price for a veneer board ?

Or as forked_  well put .

So anyway, that's why I pointed out the 100% felt covering of the RCM board. That seems to me to be the easiest and cheapest way to cover a particle board base product.

 

Mohan_Kumar_Chess
lighthouse wrote:
Mohan_Kumar_Chess wrote:

 

I think you are right here ! As the price is to good ? was looking at the 60mm board .

But do not like the tracky white strip makes it look cheap on the corners .


@lighthouse

This board don't have those white strips on the corners and no round edges.
https://www.chessbazaar.com/wooden-chess-board-blood-red-bud-rose-wood-23-60-mm-48.html?acc=b3e3e393c77e35a4a3f3cbd1e429b5dc

Thank's ! Now then this board is back at a silly price for a veneer board ?

Or as forked_  well put .

So anyway, that's why I pointed out the 100% felt covering of the RCM board. That seems to me to be the easiest and cheapest way to cover a particle board base product.

 

3 days ago its sold @40% discount on Labor day. And I have seen them selling @45% discount on Black Friday, Christmas, New year, etc. Its just you want to hit at the right moment. 
@45% off, this board price is $150 (£122) which is a good deal as this is made of expensive wood.

magictwanger

I think the proper term would be laminate,rather than veneer,from my own board.It has multiple layers of wood sandwiches,with each having a hardened glue in between.This would attribute to stability and not so easy to warp.

DrChesspain

sound67 wrote:

They don't polish the inside tops of the rooks on budget sets, and that's no "problem" at all. 😉

I have a budget-priced, sheesham Dubrovnik from a different Indian company, and the tops of my rooks aren't polished. I found it distracting, since they look like discoloration splotches.

forked_again
DrChesspain wrote:

 

sound67 wrote:

 

They don't polish the inside tops of the rooks on budget sets, and that's no "problem" at all. 😉

 

I have a budget-priced, sheesham Dubrovnik from a different Indian company, and the tops of my rooks aren't polished. I found it distracting, since they look like discoloration splotches.

 

Then you should polish them!

Eyechess

...or another answer is to buy a set that is not a budget set...

forked_again
lighthouse wrote:
Mohan_Kumar_Chess wrote:

 

I think you are right here ! As the price is to good ? was looking at the 60mm board .

But do not like the tracky white strip makes it look cheap on the corners .


@lighthouse

This board don't have those white strips on the corners and no round edges.
https://www.chessbazaar.com/wooden-chess-board-blood-red-bud-rose-wood-23-60-mm-48.html?acc=b3e3e393c77e35a4a3f3cbd1e429b5dc

Thank's ! Now then this board is back at a silly price for a veneer board ?

Or as forked_  well put .

So anyway, that's why I pointed out the 100% felt covering of the RCM board. That seems to me to be the easiest and cheapest way to cover a particle board base product.

 

I contact RCM out of curiosity:

From Sidharth

Royal Chess Mall

Hello
This is a solid wood chess board.
Solid blocks of wood tiles have been placed over a plyboard base.
 
LOL.  Solid wood blocks?  Can you call something probably 1/8" a block?
Mohan_Kumar_Chess
Hello
This is a solid wood chess board.
Solid blocks of wood tiles have been placed over a plyboard base.
 
LOL.  Solid wood blocks?  Can you call something probably 1/8" a block?

They think they are playing with words. They could have forget that English is your language and secondary to them.

Eyechess

Well, they did say it was plywood implying it is not particle board. 

When I made a couple of veneer boards a number of years ago, the base was a high quality plywood.  

I also made a couple of solid wood boards at that time.  Of course the wood squares were through the whole board showing the pattern on the top and bottom.

Yeah, solid wood veneer is an oxymoron. 

forked_again
Eyechess wrote:

Well, they did say it was plywood implying it is not particle board. 

When I made a couple of veneer boards a number of years ago, the base was a high quality plywood.  

I also made a couple of solid wood boards at that time.  Of course the wood squares were through the whole board showing the pattern on the top and bottom.

Yeah, solid wood veneer is an oxymoron. 

He said ply board not ply wood.  Particle board is not ply board (no plies meaning layers), but the way they seem to want to use words to deceive, who knows.

Mohan_Kumar_Chess
sound67 wrote:

Another nice CB set from the "LABOR40" sale (€111,-) I'd been pondering for a while: The 4.1" Empire Series in padauk/bud rosewood. Not as heavy as advertised, but decently weighted and very smooth to the feel. This design is on offer from various US and Indian companies, always (?) billed as "Empire".

I like it when the board feels like a bit of a "huddle", so I used a 2" field size board. But they would look equally good if not better on a 2.15"/2.25" board. 

 

The grain on the bud rosewood is fairly unobtrusive, which fits the stylized design well.

The knight design differs between available "Empire" sets (CB also offers a "2.0" version with a different knight and a differently designed rook).

Did you bought that on September 2?

manfred_scriba_ms07
sound67 wrote:
Mohan_Kumar_Chess hat geschrieben:

Did you bought that on September 2?

I ordered several sets between September 2nd and 4th, but the "Labor40" coupon was valid until yesterday.

The third and final set from the "LABOR40" sale I probably like the most. The "Reproduced Antique Series Dublin Pattern" in Rosewood with a 4" king. I paid €89 for this set - really, really happy with this one. The weight fits the one given on the homepage, the execution is practically flawless. 

 

These pieces do need a 2.15" to 2.25" field size board [shown: 2.15"]. The grain on the black pieces here is very lively.

 

The weights for black: King=71g, Queen=61g, Bishop=47g, Knight=47g, Rook=41g.

 

Awesome pictures and an exquisite chess set. I'm tempted. Heck, I missed that labor day sale. I'm now eager to increase my collection and thinking to put down some euros after October fest.

Great buy!

 

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