My new Noj Dubrovnik Minceta set

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Hi ddragos, I know I'm a bit late but I wanted to say congrats and thank you for sharing. I absolutely love your setup and the photos you posted are incredible. I'm really feeling the matte finish also. (: best of luck and I hope you have many memories with your new NoJ set!! -Stums

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Yes, the Minceta set is very, very nice to play with, as well as to look at on the board.

I have had mine to our local Chess club numerous times. Many of those coming and playing have commented how nice the set is.

Most people do not realize the cost of the set. To them a Chess set is a Chess set, especially with the basic Staunton design. I certainly do not bring up the cost to others.

I did have a friend that bought a House of Staunton set, Parthenon in Rosewood which was quite pricey and a board from them that had a flaw in it that was also costly. I went to their local club where he brought and used this expensive set. He was quick to tell his opponents the setup cost something like $1800.00. Most didn’t care and he just looked to be bragging.

My best friend from where I lived came with me to that club. All he would say to me was the board still had a crack in it.

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Eyechess wrote:

Yes, the Minceta set is very, very nice to play with, as well as to look at on the board.

I have had mine to our local Chess club numerous times. Many of those coming and playing have commented how nice the set is.

Most people do not realize the cost of the set. To them a Chess set is a Chess set, especially with the basic Staunton design. I certainly do not bring up the cost to others.

I did have a friend that bought a House of Staunton set, Parthenon in Rosewood which was quite pricey and a board from them that had a flaw in it that was also costly. I went to their local club where he brought and used this expensive set. He was quick to tell his opponents the setup cost something like $1800.00. Most didn’t care and he just looked to be bragging.

My best friend from where I lived came with me to that club. All he would say to me was the board still had a crack in it.

the set used in the world chess championship 2023 cost 500 dollars + there are only 10 people approved to make the horseys

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Eyechess wrote:

Yes, the Minceta set is very, very nice to play with, as well as to look at on the board.

I have had mine to our local Chess club numerous times. Many of those coming and playing have commented how nice the set is.

Most people do not realize the cost of the set. To them a Chess set is a Chess set, especially with the basic Staunton design. I certainly do not bring up the cost to others.

I did have a friend that bought a House of Staunton set, Parthenon in Rosewood which was quite pricey and a board from them that had a flaw in it that was also costly. I went to their local club where he brought and used this expensive set. He was quick to tell his opponents the setup cost something like $1800.00. Most didn’t care and he just looked to be bragging.

My best friend from where I lived came with me to that club. All he would say to me was the board still had a crack in it.

Class & style is a rare thing in this age , Most things in life seem to get vulgarised , just throw them dollar bills at it & just maybe it take on some class of it's own , Mind you i would never dream of taking a $1800,00 to a chess club yet alone outside . nervous

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Thank you all for the nice words and for all the info shared in here. 
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@lotsoblots I will try to update the forum from time to time in regards with how the board holds, but feel free to drop a comment in here or sent me a message if I'll forget.

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DesperateKingWalk wrote:
lighthouse wrote:

and those copies do not stand own their own.  DesperateKingWalk , Well try buying one if it's a cheap KO & easy to find

And what does that have to do with them being copied of the original.....NOTHING.

Just to add how can a Dubrovnik chess set made by Jakopovic be a repro when he was still making chess sets right into the later 80's , Jakopovic had a long career with a change in his designs over the decades tongue

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DesperateKingWalk wrote:
lighthouse wrote:
DesperateKingWalk wrote:
lighthouse wrote:

and those copies do not stand own their own.  DesperateKingWalk , Well try buying one if it's a cheap KO & easy to find

And what does that have to do with them being copied of the original.....NOTHING.

Just to add how can a Dubrovnik chess set made by Jakopovic be a repro when he was still making chess sets right into the later 80's , Jakopovic had a long career with a change in his designs over the decades

Because their was only about 50 original Dubrovnik chess sets made. All other Dubrovnik chess sets are either reproduction, or a variant reproduction of the original Dubrovnik.

So when a chess company make another reproduction of the first 1970 Dubrovnik chess sets. That would be a reproduction and that Dubrovnik variant reproduction.

Even this chess set is considered a Dubrovnik variant reproduction. As the set design would not exist without the original Dubrovnik.

Sorry, @DesperateKingWalk, but this set is not considered a reproduction or a Dubrovnik variant by anybody who knows the history of that particular knight. The knight design sprung from the fertile imagination of Frank Camaratta, and appeared for the first time in the HOS catalog and website in 2001. I bought one that year. According to Frank, the set was “inspired” by the Dubrovnik, but Frank didn’t like the Jakopovič knight, so he created another one and entitled it the Zagreb ‘59 set. Other manufacturers liked it, and have produced it ever since, under the names Zagreb knight or Leningrad knight. However, the set actually used in the 1959 tournament was designed by Andrija Maurovič, made by Jakopovič, and was what NOJ markets as the Dubrovnik II.

The “original” 1950 set used in the 9th Olympiad was created by Pero Poček and produced supposedly in the Jakopovič workshop, although that is not a certainty. And the original knight certainly bears no resemblance to the Zagreb knight.

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Yes, really. Can’t you read? It has influenced the creation of several variants. You’ll note that those variants aren’t called Dubrovnik. Zagreb, Yugoslav, or Leningrad, but not Dubrovnik. As I said above, Frank Camaratta created it in 2001 — some 40-50 years after the creation of the Dubrovnik sets.

So argue all you want. Those are the facts. You’re big on facts, remember?

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Right, Wikipedia is the “authoritative” source. LOL. Surely you can do better than that.

The Zagreb or Leningrad or Yugoslav sets are only vaguely related to the Dubrovnik. You can call something that never existed before a “reproduction,” but that doesn’t make it so. I’ll give you variant.

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DesperateKingWalk wrote:
madmacsback wrote:

Right, Wikipedia is the “authoritative” source. LOL. Surely you can do better than that.

The Zagreb or Leningrad or Yugoslav sets are only vaguely related to the Dubrovnik. You can call something that never existed before a “reproduction,” but that doesn’t make it so. I’ll give you variant.

If you think that reference is wrong. Show your reference disputing this reference.

Do you know why you have not shown your chosen reference disputing that reference. Because you do not have one.

Arrogance and stupidity all in the same package. That must be wonderful for you.

There you go again with the insults… the last bastion of someone who knows he’s wrong. I didn’t post from CCI because it’s under copyright. Go take a hike..

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@DesperateKingWalk, nope. I respect copyright, unlike some. I’ll ask permission. I refuse to discuss anything further with someone who insults me. If you can’t hold a civil conversation, you aren’t worth discussing anything with. You have proven your lack of character over and over again in your behavior on this forum. You obviously have nothing better to do than hector and belittle others.

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Still with the insults. You, sir, are the sad one. And I do know the definition of fair use, but I’m not about to put a magazine article that is only hard copy on line for your edification. Pl pm
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With every word out of your mouth you continue to prove what a poor, sad, malicious person you are. I pity you.
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Nowhere in this thread have I used the plural. You continue to prove exactly how small a person you are. Give it up.
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Desperate Mr. Desperate please stop being so desperate.

You need to stop attacking and insulting people.

I suggest you buy yourself a Noj Chess set. That will calm you down.

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Desperate One.....Please go back to your nursery school and let the adults go back to our "normal" friendly business! It's time for your cookies & milk.

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DesperateKingWalk wrote:

Thanks for the advice. But I just bought the best Dubrovnik chess set.

And I am having fun with "WE". I love a good simultaneous exhibition. And with these guys it is like shooting fish in a barrel.

Copyright..... I am still laughing.

This is a nice looking set.

I would not go so far as to use the superlative saying it is the best though.

Obviously the best is the Noj version.

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You wouldn't want to order a Dubrovnik in Ebony - that wouldn't be fitting. Loses the charm and generally misses the mark!

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Black in general doesn’t fit a Dubrovnik.

Selecting ebony would just be doubling down on a bad idea $$$
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Originals was made from maple and walnut, so only NOJ have accurate reproduction. Ebony was never used in Yugoslavia.

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