Maybe you should learn to play chess instead of showcasing theatrics. 2. exd5.
Playing Stockfish at its highest level on a DGT e-board
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^^ Member for less than a month. Troll alert.
You are worried about me? This guy is 700 playing Stockfish 20. LOL.
That is the trolliest troll trolling that I have seen.
YouSankMyBishop,
You are right about 2.d5 versus 2.nc3 being the better move.
I looked at the 33 matches you have played; You play well... at a level I'll probably never realize. However, I did put together a 12-game win streak last week (Hamilton68), so it's not like I absolutely $uck (just mostly). - I just started playing chess 4-months ago.
I think you may have miss the point of the video. It's about the e-board and Pi and not about my playing (or lack of) ability. That's why it's posted on the chess books and equipment forum. Additionally, it states that in the description section of the video.
I'm just trying to have fun and not offend anyone. You might want to try that.
Otherwise, your comments may create more interest; serve to bump my post to the top of the forum and as a result my video gets more views.
No, you are trying to be a macho man playing Stockfish 20 and I am calling you out on it. I would have more respect for you if you worked your way up from Stockfish 1 and asked questions at the level you can't win.
YouSankMyBishop wrote:
No, you are trying to be a macho man playing Stockfish 20 and I am calling you out on it. I would have more respect for you if you worked your way up from Stockfish 1 and asked questions at the level you can't win.
Please go away.
Crappov wrote:
YouSankMyBishop wrote:
No, you are trying to be a macho man playing Stockfish 20 and I am calling you out on it. I would have more respect for you if you worked your way up from Stockfish 1 and asked questions at the level you can't win.
Please go away.
Kind of like how I would like to see all these new people to chess and have money to get DGT board but can't play a lick of chess show off go away?
Interest video! Thanks for sharing. You are a brave man for trying to play level 20 on Stockfish. I tried for a few games at level 3040 on Tiger Chess on my iPhone when I just started getting into tactics back in 2018. I didn't play until mate. I was just trying to learn tactics and how to protect my material. I played until one side won a net of 2 pawns. Obviously I never won. If I was lucky I won 1 pawn but then lost my bishop, knight or worst to end the game. I analyzed each game after and then adjusted my methodology. I managed to learn a few things in the process. It was a very good experience. Some might think it is dumb to play such a difficult level, but there is no better lesson than to get you butt handed to you by a chess engine.
MCH818,
I can consistantly win on Level 1 and about 50% (with a few takebacks) on Level 3. At Level 3, it's playing as tough as 700-800 rated player on chess.com. My problem is not evaluating the board like I do the screen. I could look up at the touchscreen, but I fear it would become a crutch, so I avoid doing that. I have to tell myself to slow down and watch the diagonals (e.g., a queen and bishop lining up on the same diagonal). Adding more light seemed to help (told my wife, the board is now lit up like Wrigley field ). I agree with your comments. I don't just let the engine beat me but I take note HOW it got an the advantage. I often play just openings, then abort the game and start over. The Pi plays fairly human-like at the lower levels except it NEVER blunders. It might make a weaker move, but it's still a good move. Truth be known, I played Level 20 in the video simply to shorten the length. No one wants to watch a long video of me playing at Level 3. It was meant to highlight the technology and not my skill level.
Here's an image of my complete setup (with a redesigned table) that is not visible in the video. The software pictured is Fat Fritz 2.0 (Stockfish 13/14). It makes playing a bot fairly fun and informative.
Oh now I remember why the table looked so familiar. I think you had a thread about making the table where your board now sits. It is a very cool setup.
Anyhow, 50% at level 3 is good. I played 2d most of my life. There was a slight adjustment going to OTB. It was not too bad for me though. I think the reason is because I preferred OTB much more than 2d. Just stick with it. I think you will get use to it in time.
I did the same thing with openings after I read Discovering Chess Openings by John Emms. I only played openings against the computer at ELO 2090. The side that gained +2 in development count or +2 points within 15 moves won. I could never win on points, but I did win the development count a couple of times. I think that was due to Tiger Chess prioritizing some things that I did not. One was the use of the h pawn to prevent bishop pin at g4/g5. I never did it while the computer did. I usually gained 1 DC as a result.
I agree. I was better to play a quick game at level 20 than a slow game at level 3. You saved us all some time. Haha! Well keep up the good work. I think learning chess is like pouring molasses. It just takes time.
I'll check out the book you referenced... thanx - Marc
Update: Got it on Kindle...
Good luck! Let me know if you have any questions.
Hamilton53 wrote:
MCH818,
I can consistantly win on Level 1 and about 50% (with a few takebacks) on Level 3. At Level 3, it's playing as tough as 700-800 rated player on chess.com. My problem is not evaluating the board like I do the screen. Yes, I could look up at the screen but I fear it would become a crutch, so I avoid doing that. I have to tell myself to slow down and watch the diagonals. Adding more light helped with this (e.g., no shadows in the video). I agree with your comments. I don't just let the engine beat me but I take note HOW it beat me. I often play just openings, then abort the game and start over. The Pi plays fairly human-like at the lower levels except it NEVER blunders. It might make a weaker move, but it's still a good move. Truth be known, I played Level 20 in the video simply to shorten the length. No one wants to watch a long video of me playing at Level 3. It was meant to highlight the technology and not my skill level.
Here's an image of my complete setup that is not visible in the video. The software pictured is Fat Fritz 2.0 (Stockfish 13). It makes playing a bot fairly fun and informative.
Nice products.
For me, I dont have physical chess set for more than 20 years ( I bought cheap one from street market in about 10 years ago to play chess with my visiting friend. Then lost)
drmrboss,
First, thanks for the tip of SF14; have that engine loaded in Fat Fritz.
It's a different perspective playing on an actual board. I have evaluation blind spots. For example, while I can see what's pieces are under attack, I'm weaker at figuring out what my opponent's plan is. I'm not seeing the whole board the way I do the monitor. I believe with continued practice it will resolve. Playing opponents at the same level just doesn't afford one the luxury of having a self-imposed disadvantage (since many games can be won or lost by a single move). So, at times, it's a bit of a frustrating transition. That's why I have a second (paid) "practice" account, where a string of defeats has a lesser sting to it. I'm playing at [751] with the monitor on my primary account, and 100 points below that [653] with the board account. I'm fairly sure, if I'd learn to play on a board and then moved to a 2D screen, I'd have similar visualization issues.
Hamilton53 wrote:
drmrboss,
First, thanks for the tip of SF14; have that engine loaded in Fat Fritz.
It's a different perspective playing on an actual board. I have evaluation blind spots. For example, while I can see what's pieces are under attack, I'm weaker at figuring out what my opponent's plan is. I'm not seeing the whole board the way I do the monitor. I believe with continued practice it will resolve. Playing opponents at the same level just doesn't afford one the luxury of having a self-imposed disadvantage (since many games can be won or lost by a single move). So, at times, it's a bit of a frustrating transition. That's why I have a second (paid) "practice" account, where a string of defeats has a lesser sting to it. I'm playing at [751] with the monitor on my primary account, and 100 points below that [653] with the board account. I'm fairly sure, if I'd learn to play on a board and then moved to a 2D screen, I'd have similar visualization issues.
Fatfritz news.
First Rybka. Now Fritz/Chessbase.
drmrboss,
I have an opinion on this, but don't want to state it publicly since the lawsuit is still in litigation. - I private messaged you.
Video playing Stockfish at Level 20 on a e-board against a DGT 3000 Pi.
Probably a bit redundant to state, it's rather a short video.
I've been using the board to play opponents on Chess.com (second practice account), but I'm still having to train my brain to evaluate the board with the same accuracy as the 2D PC screen. It's a work in progress...
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